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Did you have a suspension tuner with you?
To be honest, there so SO many variables that even if several people did have theirs on track, they likely wouldn't be able to help.
Which tires were you on (brand, compound)?
What is your pace?
Track surface?
Track temps?
Ambient temps?
Air pressures?
Spring rates?
Have you altered the geometry?
So on and so forth. To get the best results, it would better to find someone who can work with you at the track. Make changes, test them, make more, try again, etc.
To be honest, there so SO many variables that even if several people did have theirs on track, they likely wouldn't be able to help.
Which tires were you on (brand, compound)?
What is your pace?
Track surface?
Track temps?
Ambient temps?
Air pressures?
Spring rates?
Have you altered the geometry?
So on and so forth. To get the best results, it would better to find someone who can work with you at the track. Make changes, test them, make more, try again, etc.
Hi I'm usually front of the intermediate / back of fast group pace but was learning the bike and setting it up so probably a little slower yesterday. It was also freezing and damp.
I was working with the suspension guy at the track who set sag & geometry etc and we ended up with the rebound damping fully in.
Everything is stock so the spring weight is probably a little soft for me but I was just shocked (no pun intended) to have reached the end of the adjustment with the sachs so soon
I was working with the suspension guy at the track who set sag & geometry etc and we ended up with the rebound damping fully in.
Everything is stock so the spring weight is probably a little soft for me but I was just shocked (no pun intended) to have reached the end of the adjustment with the sachs so soon
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Agreed.
To me it looks like typical "haven't been riding for a while" rip increased with no tyre warmers. And most likely weight too far in the back.
1. Because bike is new, you wait too long from the apex and then nail all the power in when bike is almost upright. Serious punishment for the tyre.
2. This is increased because apparently there are no tyre warmers, further increasing the "wait" after apex.
3. This is really hard to say, but usually if the first two are there, rider is cautious and self protection mode between ears straightens hands and rider weight is too far back.
Rebound fully in is also strange to my ear. It is a normal Sachs shock, which means that rebound adjustment is limiting and affecting oil flow in both directions (comp/reb). All in means that everything goes only through shims. Suspension is very unsensitive on both directions. This causes more stress to the rear tire as well.
Probs been posted before but quick guide here.
Race Track Motorcycle Tyre Wear Guide - Types and Causes
Race Track Motorcycle Tyre Wear Guide - Types and Causes
Cheers for the ideas, I was using warmers so pretty sure it's not cold tear. I agree that I wasn't getting on the gas when leant fully over due due it being my first track day on it. But I also wasn't gassing it hard enough to cause that sort of wear so soon.
Other than the wear I actually got it handling pretty good! But it will cost a for turn in tyres!
Other than the wear I actually got it handling pretty good! But it will cost a for turn in tyres!
I am about 16st. yes Il be getting an aftermarket down the line I am just hoping to get the best out of the standard one for now.
I cant remember the sag of the top of my head but it was set by the suspension guy at the track.
How was the ohlins to set up?
I cant remember the sag of the top of my head but it was set by the suspension guy at the track.
How was the ohlins to set up?
That is a strong statement. I've not ridden 1299 base. But last year I had 899. Suspension is not sensitive, they feel a bit sticky. But with race tires I was able to take over club level racers with fully built S1000RR Beemers.
So I would not use a word useless. There are better components for sure. For me the 1299s is about 1second/km faster than 899, both being stock. With 1299 I am 1,3s/km off from SBK (built with IDM regulation) lap record driven by Vesa Kallio (former WSS competitor). (lap times in Alastaro Circuit SBK record 1.18,355, me with stock S1000RR 1.22,17, 899 1.24,7 - I guess I will do a low 1.22 with 1299s, maybe even high 1.21)
That was exactly my thinking it's about 5k for some ohlins and a carbon mudguard on the s. I went for the ttx mk1 (du930) as I got a good deal. £800 whereas the new mk2 is about £1250. Probably won't get back on track till mid June to try it out but il keep you posted
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Nice write-up by slickwill in "Guides"
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If you think that a carbon mud guard and Ohlins are the only things on the S, you missed a couple of other features.
Not saying that those are or aren't justifiable to all, but that statement of a mud guard and some springs being the only things is inaccurate.
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