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i realize this adjustment is meant for track use, but has anyone done any experimenting or have any knowledge on using any setting other than 0, and "care to share" what they found ?
 
Well 0 is stock like on all Panigales.+2 I don't know anyone personally that has run it, but Checa ran it a lot.

-2,-4 makes the chain pull flatter, thus making the power linear. That means less squatting power on. Several guys here run one of these two set ups so they can better elaborate. I know that Canepa in SSTK ran -4 most of the time. He said it kept the front more stable and could open the throttle more and earlier. He ran loose on the track too though, (party his riding style), partly I think to keep up the tremendous corner speed he needed to stay up front.

I would think that with this bike it isn't a single adjustment, but one you make then adjust everything else to make it work. I'm going to try going negative on the 27th and see what the difference is for myself.

Sorry I can't help. Red Dawn, or Wilky have a better understanding.
 
I was told by my suspension guy that the swingarm pivot angle makes a large difference to the entire bike, therefor it needs to be tuned to work.

He didn't know enough about the Panigale to tell me anything more.
 
Hi!

Checa, Badovini, La Marra, Canepa and the other guys who ran this bike in SBK/STK used -4 through the whole season.

We started the season on 0, after we had some help from Alstare/Althes/Ducati Ohlins man Pontus, the pivot was sat on -4. Of course we changed some other things also, but for track use -4 is worth a try!
 
torerik said:
Hi!

Checa, Badovini, La Marra, Canepa and the other guys who ran this bike in SBK/STK used -4 through the whole season.

We started the season on 0, after we had some help from Alstare/Althes/Ducati Ohlins man Pontus, the pivot was sat on -4. Of course we changed some other things also, but for track use -4 is worth a try!
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while i can appreciate everyones input...back to the original question:

does anyone know what effect the varied settings have ?
 
apparantly the effect is mainly to keep things more stable on - 4. but you'll have to go very fast to know the diff..

it seems the SL no longer has the option..
 
torerik said:
Hi!

Checa, Badovini, La Marra, Canepa and the other guys who ran this bike in SBK/STK used -4 through the whole season.

We started the season on 0, after we had some help from Alstare/Althes/Ducati Ohlins man Pontus, the pivot was sat on -4. Of course we changed some other things also, but for track use -4 is worth a try!
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well if checa ran it and it is recommended then you should do the opposite. be like george costanza. if everything you do is wrong the opposite must be right. we all know how well checa did on the pani lol
 
I have only used 0 and -2 . I found -2 settled the bike better for me on corner exit .
I have had the rear shock re valved and changed the front end set up slightly so will try -4 to see what difference it makes .
 
Thamer said:
Well 0 is stock like on all Panigales.+2 I don't know anyone personally that has run it, but Checa ran it a lot.

-2,-4 makes the chain pull flatter, thus making the power linear. That means less squatting power on. Several guys here run one of these two set ups so they can better elaborate. I know that Canepa in SSTK ran -4 most of the time. He said it kept the front more stable and could open the throttle more and earlier. He ran loose on the track too though, (party his riding style), partly I think to keep up the tremendous corner speed he needed to stay up front.

I would think that with this bike it isn't a single adjustment, but one you make then adjust everything else to make it work. I'm going to try going negative on the 27th and see what the difference is for myself.

Sorry I can't help. Red Dawn, or Wilky have a better understanding.
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Not to be argumentative, but moving the pivot has nothing to do with linearity of power; what lowering the swingarm pivot point will do is Increase rear squat under power vs stock. The idea of that being beneficial was that the Pani as originally delivered was thought to have too much anti-squat in the rear suspension geometry. As such it tended to become rigid and non-compliant under power, thus causing loss of rear grip accelerating off corners. Lessening the anti-squat tendency was intended to give more rear grip. Of course as you note it generally tends to be combined with other adjustments, as more squat would increase the tendency to run wide on exits. Get the compliance you need and then dial in the balance and damping with other settings to keep your exit lines in check.
 
Steve B said:
Not to be argumentative, but moving the pivot has nothing to do with linearity of power; what lowering the swingarm pivot point will do is Increase rear squat under power vs stock. The idea of that being beneficial was that the Pani as originally delivered was thought to have too much anti-squat in the rear suspension geometry. As such it tended to become rigid and non-compliant under power, thus causing loss of rear grip accelerating off corners. Lessening the anti-squat tendency was intended to give more rear grip. Of course as you note it generally tends to be combined with other adjustments, as more squat would increase the tendency to run wide on exits. Get the compliance you need and then dial in the balance and damping with other settings to keep your exit lines in check.
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now we're learning something :)
 

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