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And San Diego and all over the region. For 2 and a half weeks

I have learnt one thing.

Per capita, America has one of the lowest percentages of riders I have ever seen.

That is all...
J.
 
And San Diego and all over the region. For 2 and a half weeks

I have learnt one thing.

Per capita, America has one of the lowest percentages of riders I have ever seen.

That is all...
J.

I think one thing you will notice about America is that there is this general undercurrent of fear concerning dangerous things (motorcycles, guns, propping plywood against cinder blocks and jumping your bicycle off it, etc.). It's not everybody, but this culture of fear has been growing and growing over the past few decades and a lot of the tools that I was taught to use growing up are now considered too dangerous for people to use and need to be controlled by the government. In this same vein, a lot of people don't view motorcycles as an enjoyable way to get around and maybe save a buck on gas, but view them more like one would poisonous snakes or DDT - something to be avoided because "they might kill you". In my opinion, there are plenty of things out there that might kill you, but one can generally acquire the skills necessary to use these things effectively whether they be a motorcycle, baseball bat, claw hammer, or a firearm. I think this is one of the chief reasons you don't see more American motorcyclists, but I may be wrong.
 
americans love their automobiles. sadly often that does not include the motorcycle.

+1. I lived in Europe for 7 years and Asia for 1. WAY more motorcycles, scooters than I have ever seen in the US. Far too many soccer moms and rednecks with jacked up trucks in the US that don't understand how much better life is on 2! ;)
 
You will also notice that they think Fosters is Australian for beer. Most have never had a proper fourex. :)
 
I think one thing you will notice about America is that there is this general undercurrent of fear concerning dangerous things (motorcycles, guns, propping plywood against cinder blocks and jumping your bicycle off it, etc.). It's not everybody, but this culture of fear has been growing and growing over the past few decades and a lot of the tools that I was taught to use growing up are now considered too dangerous for people to use and need to be controlled by the government. In this same vein, a lot of people don't view motorcycles as an enjoyable way to get around and maybe save a buck on gas, but view them more like one would poisonous snakes or DDT - something to be avoided because "they might kill you". In my opinion, there are plenty of things out there that might kill you, but one can generally acquire the skills necessary to use these things effectively whether they be a motorcycle, baseball bat, claw hammer, or a firearm. I think this is one of the chief reasons you don't see more American motorcyclists, but I may be wrong.

Now hold on, unlike UK at least we can brush bars on our trucks! Not to mention assault rifles with 100 round mags. Oh, I probably should mention we have nuclear weapons...
 
And San Diego and all over the region. For 2 and a half weeks

I have learnt one thing.

Per capita, America has one of the lowest percentages of riders I have ever seen.

That is all...
J.

This was an interesting observation. I traveled to 68 different country and noticed the same thing and this thread caused me to do a little research and found that we (USA) is the largest (by a lot) importer of motorcycles per country. That tells me how huge are population is (315,145,138) per US Census Bureau.
 
Very interesting.

I love America but I am original from Germany. I moved here 9 years ago.

I started riding when I was 15. I rode my bike everyday even when it was below freezing. Since I moved here I didn't own a bike for several years and when I talk to people that I am planning on getting one the first response is that I am going to die. When you here this all the time you start to think about it.

I remember back in Germany I never thought about anything like that. I rode on the Autobahn everyday. No big deal.

Yes, I agree. Very few bikes are around here. The winter here in Florida is perfect for riding.
 
I Live in Los Angeles, and there are three types of riders her ones who ride all the time (like me) no matter if it is cold or raining or 112 degrees, or the other type that only ride the canyons on the weekends.

there is a whole nother group that only ride to Starbucks and sit around and drink coffee

not that any are better or worse than the other, but you see a LOT more bikes on the road on Saturday/Sunday mornings than you do throughout the week.

A lot of it is just the quantity of cars out here, i think there are 44 million people in California (about 1/8th of the country population) so you brave it and split lanes (which is legal only in California) or sit in miserable traffic where even a Monster starts to get hot in the summer.

I grew up in New york City, i have to say, it is much more dangerous out here
 
And San Diego and all over the region. For 2 and a half weeks

I have learnt one thing.

Per capita, America has one of the lowest percentages of riders I have ever seen.

That is all...
J.

Simple explanation, more space, cheaper gas. We're low on the train front too :(. Since fewer bikes, motorists are generally unaware/unfriendly tiowards bikers. Plus we had all those biker movies that gave bikers here a bad name, and it stuck for a lot of folks.
 
when I talk to people that I am planning on getting one the first response is that I am going to die. When you here this all the time you start to think about it.

I remember back in Germany I never thought about anything like that. I rode on the Autobahn everyday. No big deal.

That's the kind of group think I was talking about. Sure, plenty of things are capable of killing you, but if you take the time to educate yourself on their proper use and take the time to develop the skills necessary to use these objects with some level of competency I would argue that one can use most of these things relatively safely. Is riding a superbike more dangerous than watching tv? Sure, nobody would really argue that, but I don't think it's necessarily "going to kill you" the same way that smoking, lying on train tracks or playing Russian roulette with more than the regulation number of rounds in the cylinder will.
 
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That's the kind of group think I was talking about. Sure, plenty of things are capable of killing you, but if you take the time to educate yourself on their proper use and take the time to develop the skills necessary to use these objects with some level of competency I would argue that one can use most of these things relatively safely. Is riding a superbike more dangerous than watching tv? Sure, nobody would really argue that, but I don't think it's necessarily "going to kill you" the same way that smoking, lying on train tracks or playing Russian roulette with more than the regulation number of rounds in the cylinder will.

FYI, leave at least one chamber empty, my deceased best friend and I learned the hard way. Thank God I'm still here to warn others...
 
FYI, leave at least one chamber empty, my deceased best friend and I learned the hard way. Thank God I'm still here to warn others...

You are lucky he lost the coin toss to go first.. Did he call "sides" instead of heads or tails?
 
Go first? You mean you take turns? I guess an empty chamber wouldn't have helped him, dang!

You realize if you were the one holding the gun that it could be considered murder and not a game, right? :)
 
I think the main reason you don't see a lot of motorcycles on US roads is because Americans use motorcycles for pleasure (by and large) vs. transportation like many European and Asian countries. I'd bet that personal (and national) economics and the available space in urban areas factors in the equation as well.
 
All anecdotal but in LA, San Diego and in the SF Bay Area the amount of idiotic driving related to texting and talking on a cell phone has gotten out of control. Anytime I see a car swerving erratically, making sudden lane changes without signaling, or near crashes inevitably I pass them and look in the window to see a phone in their hand talking or texting. Texting especially seems to have gotten exponentially worse in the last 2-3 years so much so that I used commute regularly but now I just stick to rides outside commute hours, long trips and the track(which I enjoy most). People noticing this as badly in other parts of the country too?

Crazy to think I feel safer swapping paint in a race than 25miles on the freeway. Too many close calls with people that think their text is more important than the safety of those on the road.
 
And San Diego and all over the region. For 2 and a half weeks

I have learnt one thing.

Per capita, America has one of the lowest percentages of riders I have ever seen.

That is all...
J.


I just came home yesterday from a 6 week trip in the good ol USA. I also noticed that there were not too many bikes on the road. I saw more on the West Coast and hardly any on the East Coast. I guess the cold weather now and snow all over the place makes it hard to ride a bike out in the cold.
 
All anecdotal but in LA, San Diego and in the SF Bay Area the amount of idiotic driving related to texting and talking on a cell phone has gotten out of control. Anytime I see a car swerving erratically, making sudden lane changes without signaling, or near crashes inevitably I pass them and look in the window to see a phone in their hand talking or texting. Texting especially seems to have gotten exponentially worse in the last 2-3 years so much so that I used commute regularly but now I just stick to rides outside commute hours, long trips and the track(which I enjoy most). People noticing this as badly in other parts of the country too?

Crazy to think I feel safer swapping paint in a race than 25miles on the freeway. Too many close calls with people that think their text is more important than the safety of those on the road.

I agree I saw people on their phones and women texting all over the USA in the last six weeks. A woman texting almost ran me over while I was crossing a pedestrian crossing in Neuport Beach area in LA. After I jumped for my life she continued on still texting.

I did enjoy my trip there. Met lots of nice people in the USA.
 

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