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panibadboy said:
Total waste of time

Lots online videos from the likes of Naska or Luca Salvadori showing body position and what to do on the bike explained at a completely different level to that old timer
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Doesn't know plastic from aluminum but thinks he has any credibility on this forum...logoff and go outside.

Stop writing in such absolute terms. It's a "total waste of time" or "the stupidest thing ever."
 
panibadboy said:
Total waste of time

Lots online videos from the likes of Naska or Luca Salvadori showing body position and what to do on the bike explained at a completely different level to that old timer
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Keith does cover the basic fundamentals though, like body positions, throttle applications, braking, race lines ect. which are essential to a track day beginner.

Naska / Luka, great.
 
Superquadro 1299 said:
Keith does cover the basic fundamentals though, like body positions, throttle applications, braking, race lines ect. which are essential to a track day beginner.

Naska / Luka, great.
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https://youtu.be/S184tBk6eiU?t=77


Keith was actual 20 years ago, times moved on.

The way Nasaka/Salvadori or Canepa explaining and showing in the video on their own example "basic fundamentals though, like body positions, throttle applications, braking, race lines" is much better than anything Keith has done. its harsh but its called progress.
 
I’ve definitely had to alter my “riding style” to ride the V4. It requires a more head down, body-off bike position than my previous bikes (600s and Triumph triples). Also with the longer reach it’s bit harder to keep the upper chest from twisting
 
Get your suspension dialed in... I got mine professionally done, what a world of difference in turns.
 
spooky said:
Pushing the bar down?
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Yeah pushing the inside bar, just took a lot more continuous effort than I was expecting. And I had read/heard a lot about how little work the inside arm should be doing in a corner, how loose you ought to be on the bars. Maybe I was misunderstanding.
 
V4Al said:
Yeah pushing the inside bar, just took a lot more continuous effort than I was expecting. And I had read/heard a lot about how little work the inside arm should be doing in a corner, how loose you ought to be on the bars. Maybe I was misunderstanding.
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You mean pushing forward then.

I wouldn’t be using counter steering to keep the bike leaned over in a turn. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can’t think why the bike would want to push wide and sit up unless you were on the throttle.

I find mine to be very easy to turn.
 
spooky said:
You mean pushing forward then.

I wouldn’t be using counter steering to keep the bike leaned over in a turn. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can’t think why the bike would want to push wide and sit up unless you were on the throttle.

I find mine to be very easy to turn.
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My money is on his suspension isn't dialed in right. If he is riding stock setup, the bike isn't ready for a track.
 
Countersteer to increase lean angle, changes to prosteer when the front tire then faces into the turn. If you watch slow motion MotoGP video you can see it happen.

The bike was standing up because you were adding throttle.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
Countersteer to increase lean angle, changes to prosteer when the front tire then faces into the turn. If you watch slow motion MotoGP video you can see it happen.

The bike was standing up because you were adding throttle.
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Lots of new guys enter corners too slow than try to make up for it once they're in it.
 
userSFV4SP2 said:
Lots of new guys enter corners too slow than try to make up for it once they're in it.
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Yeah I'm 100% sure you're both right. I must have been giving throttle because for sure I slowed way too much for many corners.
 
CaliSBK school is a great starting point, especially if you’re timid about tracking your own bike at first. A decent package to get someone into the sport.

How they broke down reference points and off loading them to the peripheral vision was appreciated.

I do agree some of their curriculum is dated but for a turnkey package completing their 4 levels would make a novice a lot safer on the beginning part of the journey.

Went for 1 on 1 racer coaching late in my progression (not CaliSBK), no clue if they can tone down the approach for completely new riders.
 

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