Australian Deals and options on Termi exhaust

Was just wondering if any of the Aussie owners on the forum have had experience with purchasing systems from the USA or managed to get a good deal from their dealer?

Costs difference for example :-
Slip On $2k USD vs $2800 Aus$
Full system $3500 USD vs $4800 Aus$

My dealer is trying to tell me the the UP map for the US system wont work properly on our bikes. Sounds like BS and also said that any warranty on the parts is lost from Ducati? Thoughts and facts would be appreciated on this?

Thats ........, my dealer also told me the same thing and when I threatened to buy my slip-ons via eBay they came to the party and did a deal. I paid $2930 NZD for mine

Why would anyone pay for a Termi exhaust at this time, given all the info on them at the moment. Just a question.

MadeinItaly said:

Why would anyone pay for a Termi exhaust at this time, given all the info on them at the moment. Just a question.

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Why not? There isn't anything wrong with the slip ons, and they sound great!

Iceman, I went through the same thoughts, and I travel regularly to the USA for work so could easily have brought them home. But you know, being a new model I wanted the peace of mind that If something went amiss I could get service.
I bit the bullet, got them fitted at my first service by Frasers who I must say we're fantastic and I had follow up calls etc. the new map and slip on Termis for me have been nothing short of magnificent. Mine is perfect.
I would say just go with it.
By the way I spoke with Craig McMartin about the full system but he felt unless you are racing it, there is no point. Good enough for me.
Sometimes we Aussies just have to forget the USA pricing and live with our situation.

And to all those naysayers, the Termi's have been designed in conjunction with Ducati for this bike, and to me is the only way to go. Period.

Hamish said:

Thats ........, my dealer also told me the same thing and when I threatened to buy my slip-ons via eBay they came to the party and did a deal. I paid $2930 NZD for mine

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Hamish, was that the full system...?

MadeinItaly said:

Why would anyone pay for a Termi exhaust at this time, given all the info on them at the moment. Just a question.

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This forum has some conflicting views....as well as some magazine reviews. Just look at this link with regards to the termi's.

2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Track Comparison - Motorcycle USA

some seem to think they work and others dont...

iceman said:

Hamish, was that the full system...?

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No just the slip ons, but remember our $$$ isn't as strong as yours so everything costs more. Original quote was $3800.
I have a BMC filter coming next week, found it strange that Termi didn't offer one as part of the package. Think its quite important that if you do the pipes you should do the filter as well to make sure it breathes.
I'm no expert but this could be part of the reason as to why so many people are complaining of flat spots...

I ended up buying my Slipons locally. $800AUD difference was postage, fitting and warranty peace of mind. If I had bought from US I would have had to have someone fit them (I'm no mechanic) and they are tricky from what I hear. The freight would have been at least a couple of hundred and I'm assuming I wasn't unlucky enough to get hit by duty! If anything goes wrong they are covered by warranty. I bought from the dealer and they fitted them for free.

Don't get me wrong, I'll buy online where there's less risk, I just had the equivalent of $2500AUD worth of dainese leathers and gloves shipped for $1500 (inc shipping) so dealers shouldn't take it for granted that well buy local.

Gotta pick your battles, totally a personal preference and if I were more mechanically minded perhaps it would have been worth a punt.

By the way, I find Austin Racings contribution to this forum to be on the whole positive but let's not forget they are flogging their own products etc and I'm not prepared to Accept their views or results on Termis - large pinch of salt required.

Yep $2800 is the quote I got too. WA fatboy has expressed my thoughts exactly. We have spent $AUD 36k (= $USD 37,353.60 ) on a bike (S model) (Americans, stop complaining that it costs $25 USD!!) and deliberating over a $800 exhaust difference is probably not worth it. I am still in 2 minds to spend the dollars though. That sort of mula buys lots of track days and tyres.

I must say though, 600Ks on the clock and my smile just gets bigger and bigger. This is why I was born. It is a piece of art and is engineering excellence. How long I keep my license is another matter.

After spending a day with Craig McMartin and his Panigale race bike at a QLD race meeting and doing a lot of chatting Im glad I went the full system, although I wouldnt mind his full Titanium system as it looks .... hot

I didnt get any pics because it was overcast on Sat and I thought I would wait till Sun, but Craig decided the bike needed more testing before racing after a not so good 3 races ( only 2nd time out ) and pulled the pin and went home.

By the way the DP rearsets look awesome and Craig said they should be available very soon..

Drogue Chucker said:

Yep $2800 is the quote I got too. WA fatboy has expressed my thoughts exactly. We have spent $AUD 36k (= $USD 37,353.60 ) on a bike (S model) (Americans, stop complaining that it costs $25 USD!!) and deliberating over a $800 exhaust difference is probably not worth it. I am still in 2 minds to spend the dollars though. That sort of mula buys lots of track days and tyres.

I must say though, 600Ks on the clock and my smile just gets bigger and bigger. This is why I was born. It is a piece of art and is engineering excellence. How long I keep my license is another matter.

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He license my biggest worry as well, I've got 3,200km up so far and ive love it. Need to get some professional suspension support though because 200kph+ doesn't feel as rock solid as I'd like for a bike that is this fast...

Hamish said:

Why not? There isn't anything wrong with the slip ons, and they sound great!

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Ok well, one I don't find a big difference in sound, and why would anyone NOW pay for a full system so their bike can be slower. Everyone blames the messenger buts its a fact. Why can't people wait until the right system is out there for the right price. Don't need to take my advice, just listen to the experts at AR and the rest. Allow me to quote on a recent post,

"We were disappointed with the Full Termi system results as it clearly under performs compared to the stock headers. The graphs don't lie. These findings have been backed up by Termi now supplying a modified set of headers to a few race teams for testing. Also backed up by the Ducati road race team who are going back to standard headers with slip on cans.
Akra have also given a set of test headers to a few race teams, they are a very different design to the Termi headers."


IMHO if I had the full system I would be selling it not buying one.

MadeinItaly said:

Ok well, one I don't find a big difference in sound, and why would anyone NOW pay for a full system so their bike can be slower. Everyone blames the messenger buts its a fact. Why can't people wait until the right system is out there for the right price. Don't need to take my advice, just listen to the experts at AR and the rest. Allow me to quote on a recent post,

"We were disappointed with the Full Termi system results as it clearly under performs compared to the stock headers. The graphs don't lie. These findings have been backed up by Termi now supplying a modified set of headers to a few race teams for testing. Also backed up by the Ducati road race team who are going back to standard headers with slip on cans.
Akra have also given a set of test headers to a few race teams, they are a very different design to the Termi headers."


IMHO if I had the full system I would be selling it not buying one.

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Because some people want to believe the reports where they say the Termis improved performance and like you some want to believe ones that report it went slower.
Your in Florida, why dont you give Jeff Nash a ring at AMS Texas, he put Termi's on a bike and got 185
I just spent time with a 8 times Australian Pro Twin Champion and he said they improved the bike.
So I really think it is up to the individual what they want.

I am a bit surprised that these teams that you talk about are running the customer spec full Termi system, when they could be running the full Titanium Superstock system which will give them 192. I mean if I wanted to win thats what I would be running.

MadeinItaly said:

Ok well, one I don't find a big difference in sound, and why would anyone NOW pay for a full system so their bike can be slower. Everyone blames the messenger buts its a fact. Why can't people wait until the right system is out there for the right price. Don't need to take my advice, just listen to the experts at AR and the rest. Allow me to quote on a recent post,

"We were disappointed with the Full Termi system results as it clearly under performs compared to the stock headers. The graphs don't lie. These findings have been backed up by Termi now supplying a modified set of headers to a few race teams for testing. Also backed up by the Ducati road race team who are going back to standard headers with slip on cans.
Akra have also given a set of test headers to a few race teams, they are a very different design to the Termi headers."


IMHO if I had the full system I would be selling it not buying one.

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I'm not going to believe one negative report when there has been many more positive ones regards to the full system, however I'm only talking about the slip ons. I don't need a full system, I'm not racing and to me its quick enough

My opinion is the slip ons look great, get rid of the flapper valve and give it a deeper tone. Add an air filter and you do get improved smoother performance. And if you have spent any time on the bike with termis fitted it certainly is louder...

My guess is you are still running the factory cans?