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Does sound pretty whiney to me.......But I remember when Ducati, when it was small and privately owned, only had to make 250 or so of the SP models to race ttthat has to be "available" to purchase.....while the "big" guys had to make 1000 or so.....Hence the 916 SP and other varieties that you never ever saw on the street. They even were allowed to make a special run of the 916 or 996 that had a modified frame to allow for a bigger airbox. Try finding one of those things.......

Ducati has chosen to put it time and money into the GP races, so until that ends....the WSB team gets second pickings....

Kawasaki tried to do MotogP and was sub-average at best, they got a second place in China a few years ago and that was it....Hence they decided to go all in on WSB and forget GP.

Aprilia is caught between both.....doing average or sub-average or poorly in both series. They need to pick a winner and go with one or the other.

KTM needs to stick to naked, dirt and adventure bikes......
 
I think the real reason if his whining about the bike is:

Bautista will be a really tough nut to crack if he can stay on the bike.

IMHO, any mid-pack motogp rider can win a wsbk race on a decent machine. Especially if they are experienced in wrestling the GPA 16 and 17 Ducati’s.

Plus, Bautista is about two heads shorter than Davies And I guess a bit lighter.

Just wait til Gigi works his V4 magic...
 
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IMHO, any mid-pack motogp rider can win a wsbk race on a decent machine.
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I can almost see that, but it would take three or four races to get used to the steel brakes and Pirelli tires.
 
DCPanni said:
I can almost see that, but it would take three or four races to get used to the steel brakes and Pirelli tires.
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You have to give these guys more credit than that.
Back in 2012 or so, Rea jumped on Stoner's RCV and came in 8th and 7th for two races. I can not see how it could be difficult for a GP rider to come to grips with a standard Sbk in a race or two.
 
Wish we could get a race with the WSB and motogp champ and add in the AMA champ, toss in 10 more riders of other organizations, make them ride 1000 or 1199 super stock machines with slicks and steel brakes. Do two races on one weekend. Such a race would never happen.
 
DCPanni said:
But I remember when Ducati, when it was small and privately owned, only had to make 250 or so of the SP models to race ttthat has to be "available" to purchase.....while the "big" guys had to make 1000 or so.....Hence the 916 SP and other varieties that you never ever saw on the street. They even were allowed to make a special run of the 916 or 996 that had a modified frame to allow for a bigger airbox. Try finding one of those things.......
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I have just about all of those varieties and those are some of the best street bikes Ducati ever made. The reality is that the current rules still say Ducati only has to make 500 of the bikes. The issue is that they used to take it super super seriously hence all of the homologated versions for WSBK but now the focus is on MotoGP and they can't split their efforts properly. WSBK is no longer the focus for Ducati that it once was. I really want to see that change but I am not hopeful.

The Panigale is the first Ducati superbike to not win a WSBK title in its entire existence.
 
Sherpa23 said:
I have just about all of those varieties and those are some of the best street bikes Ducati ever made. The reality is that the current rules still say Ducati only has to make 500 of the bikes. The issue is that they used to take it super super seriously hence all of the homologated versions for WSBK but now the focus is on MotoGP and they can't split their efforts properly. WSBK is no longer the focus for Ducati that it once was. I really want to see that change but I am not hopeful.

The Panigale is the first Ducati superbike to not win a WSBK title in its entire existence.
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Ducati 998 didnt win....motor was 998 testastretta, but they calling ( 2001) 996R...and now I own 2 bikes who didnt won nothing
 
Sutki said:
Ducati 998 didnt win....motor was 998 testastretta, but they calling ( 2001) 996R...and now I own 2 bikes who didnt won nothing����
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I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

That generation of superbike, the 916 generation, was extremely successful in WSBK winning the constructors championship in 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999 (996), 2000 (996), 2001 (technically 996R), 2002 (998F02). It basically won a WSBK title every single year of its existence except for one (1997).


Also, you own a 998R. That is the homologation bike for the 998F02 which won the constructors title in 2002. I have one as well and it is one of the best Ducatis ever built to this day.
 
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The only time I saw an SP something in person was in 1997 at Laguna Seca for the WSB. Yea, rare birds indeed. I hope you ride them some. Then again I never saw an RC-30, RC-45 or R-7 or an OW-01 or ZX-7RR riding in the streets either.....
 
DCPanni said:
The only time I saw an SP something in person was in 1997 at Laguna Seca for the WSB. Yea, rare birds indeed. I hope you ride them some. Then again I never saw an RC-30, RC-45 or R-7 or an OW-01 or ZX-7RR riding in the streets either.....
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Other than the 996R, they all get ridden regularly. KMY on here has an RC-30, RC-45, as well as SPS and other R bikes and his all get used too.

ZX-7RR. That was a beast. The ZX-7R was the street version, although I think at one point they did change the name on that one also to Zx-7RR like the race bike.
 
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Sherpa23 said:
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

That generation of superbike, the 916 generation, was extremely successful in WSBK winning the constructors championship in 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999 (996), 2000 (996), 2001 (technically 996R), 2002 (998F02). It basically won a WSBK title every single year of its existence except for one (1997).


Also, you own a 998R. That is the homologation bike for the 998F02 which won the constructors title in 2002. I have one as well and it is one of the best Ducatis ever built to this day.
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You are right for that, I just thinking drivers wsbk title..my bad:)
 
In 1993 the ZX-7 was the street version and the ZX-7RR was the rare race version. A KTM dealer in Ellicott City Md, who also sells Kawis and other brands, has a brand new never used 1993 ZX-7RR up on the wall ledge.....on display above the showroom....just sitting there.....They wont sell it.....so it sits and sits.....
 

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