Difference on track between supercorsa SP and SC?

mrbrettbaker · Jun 1, 2015

Don't run SCs on the street, they WILL bite you. They are race compound, suck when could, but worse is that every time you use them they heat cycle. At some point these heat cycles will change the chemistry and they will get hard and slick. They also suck in the wet. The SP has a high silica content, giving good wet grip, sc doesn't. The grip of the SC is leaps and bounds above any street tire, and among the best race tires. The slick is the same. I use the slick and love it. Use warders on either, mainly to limit the heat cycles. Get them on the tires fast after pulling off. 32front 24rear hot off the Warner's works good. Want a good deal on these tires and with it racer quality advice about the tires and setup to make them work? Reach out to Mike Faillace at Metric Devil Moto and tell him I sent you. He is the northeast Pirelli race tire rep

royal · Jun 2, 2015

I'd agree with the things already said here. If you are doing lots of street then the SPs make more sense but if you're mainly on track then the SCs are loads better. Grip is phenomenal even compared to the SPs which are excellent to begin with. The SPs last longer on the street but I didn't find they lasted any longer on track. I went through a rear of either tyre in one or two trackdays and the front would last two rears , possibly three, before it needed changing. I'm running fast group and same pressures as Marmoot.
Was just going to put a vid up elsewhere so might as well paste it here to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9vlpa6jo2g

Marmoot · Jun 2, 2015

Is good video!
Looks like you started from #13 and went up to #3 in one lap. Oh that sounds familiar. Is your name Marc?

Slower people tend to come out of corners wide. It is easierr to pass them on the exit by going deeper and accelerate sooner.

TangySquirrel · Jun 14, 2015

Marmoot said:
Yes, 200/60 rear for the slick. It does change the geometry, and it actually makes the turn in quicker. But I have to compensate by reducing rear rebound (increase rebound damping) by 1-2 clicks to make it more stable through the turn. Otherwise, the bike moves quite a bit.
Once that's done, it felt much better than the 1199 I knew.
I think it results in raised rear height, "more correct" steering head angle, and "more correct" swingarm angle, all closer to the 1199R or 899 geometry. Maybe...

Also, taller tyres = bigger rolling diameter = give better speed at the same RPM, both straight up and when leaned. When I went with how the bike felt (ie going at the same rpm), braking takes a bit of recalibration. But it becomes a lot easier to get faster laptimes (duh!!)

It felt a bit awkward first time when riding around the pit. Felt like the bike is very tall and I am not sure what it was doing. But within one lap I got into it and was enjoying it so much. Now i wished I could get SP/SC in 200/60 size

Interestingly, after four trackdays on the superbike slicks, I am still at 1:12.03 personal best compared to 1:12.30 on the SC1/2 supercorsa. It is not automatic laprecord breaker, but I felt comfortable at 1:12 whereas with the supercorsa SC I felt quick at 1:12., and with the SP I felt huge satisfying rush of adrenaline at 1:12 (and the knowledge I am not likely able to do 1:12 if the tyres have done more than 2 trackdays).
So, there you go, all three tyres are super capable. But there is definitely an incremental increase in the capability.

And the other way around, if the track/road is very cold and damp, I'd be ok with SP, scared shitless with SC, and would just wait for tow truck outright with the slicks.

Lmao tow truck got me laughing.

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