DQS repeated problems

Yeh can't say you can blame Nitrouz for trying to replicate the problem, if something happens you WANT to know what the heck the problem is. Done that a couple times with my 1299 with what i'd call minor issues. If you don't try and figure out what the problem is do you actually think a dealership will bother trying to figure the problem out for you? They tend to just ride it around the block and say it's fine.

Of course. Replicating the problem is one thing, and in the situation with his friend when it happened suddenly and all at once, sure, it was a life threatening situation. However, claiming it's life threatening and being upset with Ducati when you're trying to replicate it just doesn't make sense to me. The bottom line is, if you have an issue with a system that's option, you either take it easy until you find out what the problem is (IE: avoid corners) or you turn it off and let the dealer take care of it all. However, you don't go trying to replicate the problem while bombing it in the twisties, which is when it becomes a truly dangerous issue.

Nitrouz was specifically saying it was dangerous because what if it happened during a turn. Logical. However, when you tack on the fact that he was trying to replicate an issue, if it happened during a turn then it's his own damn fault. He would be putting himself in danger at that point.

Also, do people just not pay attention to what's happening with their bike? Prior to the recall, my bike had one of those moments where it started chugging and surging while I was in a parking lot. Could have launched me into a car... theoretically. However, the second I noticed the bike doing something I was not telling it to do, I pulled in the clutch and found somewhere to stop. How the .... are people going down the road, noticing the bike doing crazy ...., and just continuing along waiting to see if it resolves itself? If your bike is acting up for 10-15 seconds before doing something that bucks you off, you're kinda an ..... for not pulling in that clutch sometime before then.

I don't get it man. I guess it's because I'm military and we are all forced to take basic and advanced MSF courses where stuff like that is taught to us. I can't imagine my bike surging the throttle or starting to stutter and just going, "Huh, that's kinda weird, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens."

Nitrouz said:

Update:

As my second quickshifter broke down just a few days after replacement, my tech was communicating with Ducati to make sure it's not my bike, and it's the quickshifter. They installed my old "broken" quickshifter on another bike in the showroom and it didn't work either. So now Ducati told my tech to replace my quickshifter under warranty (again). This will be my third and hopefully 3 times' a charm.

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Hi Nitrouz, is it working ok now?

xpercad said:

Hi Nitrouz, is it working ok now?

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Yes the new quickshifter is in and it's back to normal. But who knows for how long this time. Hopefully it's just a bad initial batch of quickshifters.

But now the rear wheel is clicking. Sounds like it's from the hub. Have to bring it in again next week. Seems like most of my mileage is from riding to and from the dealer. Lol

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Yes the new quickshifter is in and it's back to normal. But who knows for how long this time. Hopefully it's just a bad initial batch of quickshifters.

But now the rear wheel is clicking. Sounds like it's from the hub. Have to bring it in again next week. Seems like most of my mileage is from riding to and from the dealer. Lol

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That's interesting about the clicking from the rear wheel.

I have pulled away from junctions thinking something is catching the spokes in the wheels but then stops, thought I was imagining it.

Be interested to see what it is causing it.

I've been having the same issue, bike runs good for about 6miles or so then the Qs shuts off a few times I was pulling away from a stop light and it momentarily killed power then came back on and almost bucked me off. I took it back to the dealer twice for this and it's currently there now, they have done several master resets of the Ecu and had the Qs relearn. Friday they pulled a Qs off another bike in the showroom, now it's working on upshifts but not downshifting at all. They informed me on Saturday that Ducati issued another software update to address the Qs system on Friday. My bike also would flash the mode it wouldn't set when ever the Qs was acting up so hopefully they figure this out soon because I only have 240 miles on my bike and it's been in the shop since I got it pretty much

Nitrouz said:

Yes the new quickshifter is in and it's back to normal. But who knows for how long this time. Hopefully it's just a bad initial batch of quickshifters.

But now the rear wheel is clicking. Sounds like it's from the hub. Have to bring it in again next week. Seems like most of my mileage is from riding to and from the dealer. Lol

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Normally you are suppose to get paid for being a Beta tester!

Hopefully you discover all the loose ends before they are ready for commercial release, wait a minute...they already did. WTF!

DucatiCartel said:

I've been having the same issue, bike runs good for about 6miles or so then the Qs shuts off a few times I was pulling away from a stop light and it momentarily killed power then came back on and almost bucked me off. I took it back to the dealer twice for this and it's currently there now, they have done several master resets of the Ecu and had the Qs relearn. Friday they pulled a Qs off another bike in the showroom, now it's working on upshifts but not downshifting at all. They informed me on Saturday that Ducati issued another software update to address the Qs system on Friday. My bike also would flash the mode it wouldn't set when ever the Qs was acting up so hopefully they figure this out soon because I only have 240 miles on my bike and it's been in the shop since I got it pretty much

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Be careful man. Turn off DQS until this is sorted.

thorny said:

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Looks great, will the TL QS from the 1299S fit the V4S?

Question for you guys: Did anyone with the QS issue have their TC/ABS light come on when the power was getting cut? Just yesterday I was at about 90% throttle in 1st going on to the highway at a fairly spirited speed. The front wheel was off the ground (as it does when you give it the beans in first) and then the damn thing cut to what seemed like 0% throttle, front smashed down, smashed my balls on the gas tank, etc. I hadn't had a chance to roll off the throttle given the major WTF moment and it immediately surged back to full throttle again (about 2 seconds after cutting out). One thing I did notice was the amber TC/ABS light flashing when this happened.

I was riding with warm tires on scorching hot smooth asphalt, off the brakes, not cornering, lots of traction - no reason for any type of interdiction to be happening - so the TC light flashing was a bit of a mystery.

Is this consistent with what those of you that have had the QS issues experienced? I left mine on but turned around and rode back home at a very relaxed pace. Didn't notice any issues other than the one occurrence and no weird chugging before or after. Other than that one occurrence the QS has been great, but now I'm scared to ride this thing hard and need to figure out what to tell the dealership. If anyone can confirm / deny that this is similar to what they went through that'd be great. Might be something else but I can't see what other system would completely chop the throttle like that for such an extended period of time.

The DQS issue is worrisome. You don't generally buy a 200+ HP bike to ride it gingerly, second-guessing it so it won't surprise you and cause an accident. I didn't mind the other recalls so much, and this issue isn't even a recall yet, but it's potentially the most serious of the problems so far.
I'm close to cancelling my Speciale order. That would make me pretty sad and probably I'd regret it, but there will always be some of these around to buy if/when the bugs are all finally ironed out. Might have to wait.

Very troubling..Not an isolated incident obviously. This could potentially cause loss of control at speed or on track. Not very confidence inspiring..
Nothing worse than having the bike in the shop all the time for extended periods.

Took my bike in for the 600 mile service. They ran a vin check and said a DQS update was needed. They did the update. Honestly, I like the way it was before the update. I never experienced the issues you guys described but there's an update for DQS that was just released. I have the V4 base.


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yeah they just did my 600 today i swear i lost alot of power between 4-7k when the did that qs update . now off idle it wants to stall and burp. i'm really unhappy.

Trade in time...

MaverickiB said:

The bottom line is, if you have an issue with a system that's option, you either take it easy until you find out what the problem is (IE: avoid corners)

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Avoid corners. Really?

ghostdog6 said:

Avoid corners. Really?

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Not indefinitely, just for the few minutes it takes to figure out the problem. If my bike started surging and ...., I'm not going to go diving into corners, I'm going to pull over into a parking lot or something and see what the hell is happening. If I find out it's due to DQS, stop, turn it off, then go back to riding as I normally would.

I feel like this should be common sense, but apparently it isn't. People will actually sit there on a bike not doing what it is told and just stay on the gas without pulling in the clutch or finding somewhere safe to stop quickly.

Yeah I'm calling my dealer today didnt even want to ride the bike . Sluggish shifts lower midrange power. Tried switching to sport dynamic didnt help and my dealer is 50 miles away

So is this happening to everyone now?

I'm meant to drop off my 1299 tomorrow and pick up the V4 Monday. Seriously considering not doing that now. Or maybe I can ask the dealer not to update the software out of the crate for the time being?

ajctraveler said:

So is this happening to everyone now?

I'm meant to drop off my 1299 tomorrow and pick up the V4 Monday. Seriously considering not doing that now. Or maybe I can ask the dealer not to update the software out of the crate for the time being?

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I didnt encounter any DQS issues (yet) but noticed that after the software update sometimes when using DQS, instead of directly showing the new gear, the display shows "-" for a short period of time (maybe 3/10 sec). That wasnt the case pre software update