Dry clutch conversion

Thamer · Aug 15, 2016

Okay people,

Has anyone done it? I know it's expensive, I just want to know if after doing it you noticed a performance difference? Good or bad. I figure with the amount of heat the panigale puts out, maybe that's why they went to wet clutch.

Any info, (Facts), or reasonable deductions would be appreciated.

BTW it's not for my bike, I just figured I'd ask for a buddy.

Thanks in advance

wilkson · Aug 15, 2016

I think you would be spending money just for he sake of spending money.

Thamer · Aug 15, 2016

wilkson said:
I think you would be spending money just for he sake of spending money.

It's good that I'm not the one spending the money then

I do miss the look though. Who ever does do it, pls post pics

RD16RR · Aug 15, 2016

Thamer said:
It's good that I'm not the one spending the money then I do miss the look though. Who ever does do it, pls post pics

you just dont need it - fun to do if you like wrenching...but if u want to ride it....leave wet clutch alone - change your oil more often if you need to feel better

Gecko · Aug 15, 2016

I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the engine tends even more to stall during start due to the reduced rotational mass of the clutch.

RD16RR · Aug 15, 2016

Gecko said:
I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

LOL'S !!!!

ducati culture · Aug 15, 2016

Gecko said:
I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

Man!! That is beautiful!

NorCalDuke · Aug 15, 2016

Gecko said:
I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the engine tends even more to stall during start due to the reduced rotational mass of the clutch.

Looks damn sexy!! How much $$$ was it to complete?

Gecko · Aug 15, 2016

NorCalDuke said:
Looks damn sexy!! How much $$$ was it to complete?

I paid EUR 2.700.- for the clutch kit including a new machined engine housing (italian vendor, found on Ebay).
Did the work myself, but took me at least 2 full days!

endodoc · Aug 15, 2016

Performance Difference? Is this implying that your power plant and physical abilities have pushed the limits of the stock clutch? The Aruba WSBK team is using the EVR clutch and billet EVR basket.(wet) Other WSBK teams are using EVR, Sutter, STM and Corse. All wet clutches. The dry clutch looks killer for sure but i'm pretty sure if the wet clutch gets the job for WSBK, anyone on this board should be OK with it. As far as servicing it goes, I can pull the clutch plates in 10 min (literally, clutch pack removed) on the wet set up without removing any bodywork or spilling one drop of oil (do it on the side stand)so the "ease of servicing" is a rather moot point. Since I built the bike from the ground up I went with the EVR and the billet basket but any clutch is good. As far as aesthetics and just plain "bad ..." are concerned, Gecko already owns that market. I wasn't even going to try. His stuff is awesome and i would trust his feedback on how things work. Im just being practical.

timwu12 · Aug 15, 2016

endodoc said:
Performance Difference? Is this implying that your power plant and physical abilities have pushed the limits of the stock clutch? The Aruba WSBK team is using the EVR clutch and billet EVR basket.(wet) Other WSBK teams are using EVR, Sutter, STM and Corse. All wet clutches. The dry clutch looks killer for sure but i'm pretty sure if the wet clutch gets the job for WSBK, anyone on this board should be OK with it. As far as servicing it goes, I can pull the clutch plates in 10 min (literally, clutch pack removed) on the wet set up without removing any bodywork or spilling one drop of oil (do it on the side stand)so the "ease of servicing" is a rather moot point. Since I built the bike from the ground up I went with the EVR and the billet basket but any clutch is good. As far as aesthetics and just plain "bad ..." are concerned, Gecko already owns that market. I wasn't even going to try. His stuff is awesome and i would trust his feedback on how things work. Im just being practical.

Not that I need to upgrade or anything, but is there a reason the stock slipper is not good enough?

BROsiah · Aug 15, 2016

I hear the reason to upgrade the slipper is the stock basket is weak and can crack if you beat on it. If you dont race or do track days i see no reason to change it.

endodoc · Aug 15, 2016

That's the reason EVR gives to sell you the $1200.00 basket (it is pretty cool) but there are plenty of good racers here on this board who do pretty well with the stock setup and I'm not one of them. My lust for nifty parts and my fortunate financial situation far exceed my riding skills or my sanity when it comes to this crap.

Gecko · Aug 15, 2016

BROsiah said:
I hear the reason to upgrade the slipper is the stock basket is weak and can crack if you beat on it. If you dont race or do track days i see no reason to change it.

Actually for the R and the 1299 the OEM basket has been re-inforced by Ducati. With the last SL recall the original 2014 basket was replaced by an R type one.

Beemer323 · Feb 28, 2018

Can't see pic

I guess gone are the days of those sexy magnesium engine cases for the clutch...

Gecko said:
I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the engine tends even more to stall during start due to the reduced rotational mass of the clutch.

Gecko · Feb 28, 2018

Beemer323 said:
Can't see pic

I guess gone are the days of those sexy magnesium engine cases for the clutch...

All pictures have been deleted by the site admin!

venkatakrish19 · May 21, 2021

Gecko said:
I did the conversion on one bike.
It's a lot of work to do it properly, I had to build multiple pressing tools first in order to assemble everything together in a professional way. I doubt that any dealer would take the time for all the preparations.

So, if you want to do a conversion, do it yourself.

IMHO sound and look is great, clutch feels more direct than the OEM wet clutch, slip is significantly less (installed Z40 Evo GP).

I did the work back in February this year. At least at that time support of STM was .... and the installation guide was a joke

The clutch itself is really high quality, has perfect finish and fitted without any modification. I just replaced most steel screws with Ti.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the engine tends even more to stall during start due to the reduced rotational mass of the clutch.

Very pretty looking stuff!

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