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Ducati has released MSRP pricing for the all new 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 for the United States and Europe:
  • 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 - $21,195 / €22,590
  • 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 S - $27,495 / €27,890
  • 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale - $39,995 / €39,900
The Standard V4 is $1,200 more than the outgoing Ducati 1299, and the V4 S is $1,700 more than the 1299 S.

The increased pricing is part of Ducati's desire to make the flagship Panigale more exclusive, and creates more space between the 2018 Ducati 959 Panigale, which will be $15,395.

For those interested in the Ducati Premier Financing program, which is smaller monthly payments and one large balloon payment, the terms are:

(48 months / $2,000 down / +$750 freight / 4.79% interest)
  • Ducati Panigale V4: $262 / $10,356
  • Ducati Panigale V4 S: $349 / $13,404
  • Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale: $522 / $19,429
 
Wow! It will certainly create some space between the 959 and the V4 Panigale.

I don't have my calculator out but those terms don't look all that good either. I'll wait to find 1000 mile 18 month old for less than 20k.
 
Broken down a little more, don't know is the ballon payment counts as payment 48, if not, my calculations are short a monthly payment.

Ducati Panigale V4 base: $262 / $10,356

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$12314 $262 x 47
$10356 Ballon payment
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$25420 Total Payment
$21195- MSRP
--------
$ 4225 Finance Charges


Ducati Panigale V4 S: $349 / $13,404

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$16403 $349 x 47
$13404 Ballon payment
--------
$32557 Total Payment
$27495- MSRP
--------
$ 5062 Finance Charge


Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale: $522 / $19,429

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$24534 $522 x 47
$19429 Ballon payment
--------
$46713 Total Payment
$39995- MSRP
--------
$ 6718 Finance Charge
 
Wow! It will certainly create some space between the 959 and the V4 Panigale.

I don't have my calculator out but those terms don't look all that good either. I'll wait to find 1000 mile 18 month old for less than 20k.

actually 4.7 is good for an interest rate on an item like this ive seen as high as 7 and i have perfect credit. if something went south what is the first thing you wont pay
thats right a bike or other luxury item.
 
What's the difference between the V4 base and V4S?

Wheels?
electronic shocks?
what else?
 
What's the difference between the V4 base and V4S?

Wheels?
electronic shocks?
what else?


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http://ducatiforum.com/ducati-v4/29839-differences-between-ducati-v4-v4s.html
 
actually 4.7 is good for an interest rate on an item like this ive seen as high as 7 and i have perfect credit. if something went south what is the first thing you wont pay

thats right a bike or other luxury item.



I think the finance charge in the post above yours tells the story. This is considered an open ended lease, so your overall cost could be higher if the bike is worth less than the balloon payment. Your finance charge could be less if it's worth more that the finance charge. So you have to ask yourself, can you sell a 4 year old Ducati for more or less than the balloon payment.

I'm betting you will beat it by a little, but how much, I don't know. It's a tricky calculation that and the buyer assumes ALL the risk of resale value.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but you will not get the title until you've made the balloon payment and the balance of other owed payments, at which time you can think about selling it for whatever it's worth.

I see logic where you have the bike for 3 years and then trade in on a new model, but you'll be playing financial catchup for a long time.

So i guess you could treat it as a lease.
 
Broken down a little more, don't know is the ballon payment counts as payment 48, if not, my calculations are short a monthly payment.

Ducati Panigale V4 base: $262 / $10,356

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$12314 $262 x 47
$10356 Ballon payment
--------
$25420 Total Payment
$21195- MSRP
--------
$ 4225 Finance Charges


Ducati Panigale V4 S: $349 / $13,404

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$16403 $349 x 47
$13404 Ballon payment
--------
$32557 Total Payment
$27495- MSRP
--------
$ 5062 Finance Charge


Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale: $522 / $19,429

$ 2750 Deposit and freight
$24534 $522 x 47
$19429 Ballon payment
--------
$46713 Total Payment
$39995- MSRP
--------
$ 6718 Finance Charge

so if you dont pay the ballon payment and instead you move onto a another bike (or dont is an option too).

You paid $12314 of 47/48 months (4 years) use for base. I guess that is not bad but for V4 Speciale of $24534 is a lot.

Maybe its best to get base "lease" and turn it into a track bike and ride it hard for 4 years and give it back.
 
But it's not a lease, if you don't pay the balloon, the bike gets repo'd and your credit gets hit big time.
 
But it's not a lease, if you don't pay the balloon, the bike gets repo'd and your credit gets hit big time.

yep good point and we are all aware how Ducati's hold their value or rather don't hold their value,
 
Turning a leased bike into a track bike? That's a not smart idea as if you wadd the bike you are in a very bad place. Its leased, you don't own it. I very much doubt insurance pays it off when its destroyed. Even if its banged up, when you turn it in they will see that and you will lose.
 
This isn't a lease you own the damn bike really people? It's a pure finance with a Baloon at the end.

It's the same as 3easy bmw you own the bike. You can either pay it off take out a loan for what's left or trade it in for a new bike. Ducati doesnt guarantee you the worth its yours. If your Baloon payment is say 15k and the dealer says it's worth 10 you trade it in you owe 5k on the next bike it's simple. I have easy ride with the hp4

Second the interest rate is whatever the rate is. You are paying 4.7 for the term of the loan and u owe the Baloon payment. In theory you can come out ahead it will NEVER happen. You may have to refinance to pay the Baloon. U may owe money but the interest is fixed till the last payment let's not make it harder than it is.
You will not benefit in this trust me. Ducati wants u locked in and paying end of story. After 4 years one way or another you will be paying. What you pay is up to you. Lump sum refinance or trade it and start paying again. At the end let's sayvyou owe 3-5 k on the value that's rolled into your next bike. The worst thing for Ducati is you pay it in full at term end. Doubt me on this

Here is a little story that happened in NJ. Riders insurance classified the s1000rr as sport bike it was touring rates doubled. Easy ride came to an end market was flooded with 4 year old bikes. Guess what happened to the people that wanted to trade in their bikes. Value .... the bed. Guess who made up the difference. You got it. These plans are marketed with catch words historically usually we have seen the worth etc. Wheel in a 4 year old bike with 15k miles on it see what they give u.

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I think the finance charge in the post above yours tells the story. This is considered an open ended lease, so your overall cost could be higher if the bike is worth less than the balloon payment. Your finance charge could be less if it's worth more that the finance charge. So you have to ask yourself, can you sell a 4 year old Ducati for more or less than the balloon payment.

I'm betting you will beat it by a little, but how much, I don't know. It's a tricky calculation that and the buyer assumes ALL the risk of resale value.



This is wrong your rate is fixed u still pay the rate if you pay to maturity. Go ahead try and get what it's worth after 4 years. I have a bridge to sell u too


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you'll be playing financial catchup for a long time

Learnt from my grandad its a bad idea his worked in mining his whole life always had brand new vehicles every 3 years, just retired and had to use his super (in USA called 401k) to buy a house.

And on a mining wage could have bought a house in cash.
 
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[*]2018 Ducati Panigale V4 - $21,195 / €22,590
[*]2018 Ducati Panigale V4 S - $27,495 / €27,890
[*]2018 Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale - $39,995 / €39,900

Why is the Speciale relatively less expensive compared to the Base and to the S in Euros?

Is there any spec that is different for the EU on the Speciale?
 
We covered much of this back when the program came out on a prior thread. The Ducati Premier program is NOT designed to be a way for you to have a lower TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP for a new Ducati vs. using traditional financing. It's purely a program designed to offer lower payments on a new Ducati than with traditional financing. If you are not a payment buyer then there's no real reason for you to consider this program. If however, you are a monthly cashflow person (like 50% of us) then the monthly payment is important, and you view how much you pay for month as the deciding factor on what you can buy. You might pay a little more interest, but it's the difference between being able to buy the bike with a comfortable payment or not. As far as the residual balloon amount on the program, Ducati Financial Services has been very conservative with the residuals. They don't want, and we as dealers don't want, people to come trade bikes in that they are upside down on. That is our worst nightmare and certainly not something that we would ever want to encourage or purposely set up. It's not a guaranteed value, but the intent is that the majority of owners who put average miles on their bike will come back in and either be at break-even or have a small amount of equity in the bike. That's what Ducati wants and it's what we as dealers want. If you put a lot of miles on your bike, then yeah, your bike may not be worth as much, same goes if it has been damaged or abused. Your obligations on the loan are exactly the same as if you used traditional financing, you are responsible for the full price of the bike at the end, which you either pay, refinance, or you trade out. It's not better or worse than traditional financing when it comes to what happens when you come trade it back in 3 or 4 years down the road. If you're a person who typically keeps your bike for 4+ years, then you're likely to go with traditional financing. The average Ducati owner is around 2.5-3 years, which is why this program works well for the brand.

As far as why Ducati launched this program, despite the rambling on this thread, it had nothing to do with Ducati wanting to "do anything" to the buyers who use the program, "screw" people, "trap" people, etc. This program was launched for one reason, and that reason was that the dealers who had to compete against the S1000RR in sales were losing a crap ton of business because they couldn't offer as low of a monthly payment on an 1198 (and then a Panigale) than BMW was. Dealers pushed for this for over 5 years before it was finally launched, and much of that delay was due to the transition from the prior factory lender over to the VW-backed Ducati Financial Services. Look at the sales volume of the S1000RR since it was launched, BMW hit an absolute home run with the 3Easy Ride financing program with that bike. It sold at least double what it would have had they not offered that financing, because it put the bike on par with monthly payment vs. a Japanese liter bike. A huge percentage of the buyers of that bike were not previous European bike owners, they were conquest sales from prior Japanese liter bike owners. Brilliant!
 
Jarel,
I just want to say that you do your dealership (and Ducati) a lot of good being here and chiming in on things and answering questions.

I am not a financing kind of person but I appreciate your input on why this kind of program makes sense for some people and the benefits for Ducati by offering it. You could have blown it off and not responded at all but instead you carefully laid out the reasoning and benefits to such a thing and why it would work for certain people.

Once again, you show your willingness and ability to be a proper ambassador for the brand.
 

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