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I thought it was wider and taller. Not quite WSBK style, but not as narrow and sloped.
300 mile rides are a waste of a sportbike anyway. Trackday sessions at :20 are near heaven though.
I've just swapped over to a new V4S from 2x current generation S1000RR's (2019 and 2020) both M packages with the carbon wheels etc. Never tracked or raced these K67s only earlier models. Excellent road bikes and in some ways better equipped for road use than the panigale. A quick run down on my take between the two bikes:
S1000 is very light and agile. Initial corner entry is fast as is corner transition but front end feel and feedback is missing when compared to how good the V4 is. The V4 handles just as well if not better is my eyes but needs a little more input to get there. Corner exit electronics are excellent on both bikes and the 23 model K67 also has slide control like the ducati.
I thought the bmw carbon wheels were great until I started cracking them on the type of roads I like to ride regularly. May not be an issue if you only track the bike or ride roads that are surfaced like one. I enjoy riding the mixed conditions that B roads can bring but these wheels just didn't seem to match. Currently have a bike that's been off the road for 2.5 months waiting for new front and rear. Have cracked 2 more fronts previously also granted 1 was in a crash but still.
The V4 appears to lack a little of the low - mid throttle response that the bmw shift cam engine produces. In saying that my panigale is still stock engine wise so maybe a full system will wake this up a bit.
S1000 very well appointed. Dash is excellent. Ergonomically comfy. Cruise control, heated grips etc. I had to fit the taller M seat to mine to gain more leg room and a nicer riding position (for me) but the V4 was the comfiest sport bike I've ridden in stock form. Love it. Just did a 3000km / 7 day trip on it with sfa freeway riding and it was brilliant.
New to me but not you guys is the fact the ducati feels exciting to ride. The bmw was so good at everything that it almost became boring. My partner bought a 2021 RVS4 factory and this thing along with the fact my s1000 was off the road waiting for wheels to arrive made me bite the bullet on the new V4S.
If you could own both bikes it would be a perfect world. Can't comment properly on either bike for track use. My track bikes are 2010 and 2015 model S1000's.
I've just spent four days on track with my 22 V4 base. And I tried a V2 Supersport spec bike on the last day.
The V2 was far easier to ride, and virtually the same lap times (the owner was 0.5s faster than his V4R). The engine was very impressive. But, the V4 is so much more exhilarating and visceral. Harder to ride, and slower for most, but you feel more alive after riding the V4
I've just spent four days on track with my 22 V4 base. And I tried a V2 Supersport spec bike on the last day.
The V2 was far easier to ride, and virtually the same lap times (the owner was 0.5s faster than his V4R). The engine was very impressive. But, the V4 is so much more exhilarating and visceral. Harder to ride, and slower for most, but you feel more alive after riding the V4