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Honda RC213V-S Spotted Testing in Japan!
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Had seen that in MCN. Think I'd save my money and go for the bargain basement Panigale R instead! 
After all, think about it. That thing is basically a detuned, streetified version of the bike Nicky Hayden rode last year. No seamless box, no pneumatic valves, no super-duper electronics, less power, etc.
Chaz recently did four seconds off his SBK time at Imola on the '15 R (on street tires, no less), so there's a decent performance delta. Last year at Phillip Island, Chaz' best race lap was only one tenth off Nicky's best on the open class RC213V, with most being about a second off. So the GP bike was barely quicker than the '14 Ducati SBK bike. No doubt the street version will be a cool bike, but I'll be surprised if it's much over a second a lap quicker than an R - at best. Not that anyone's going to risk binning one anyway; collector's special I'd say.
After all, think about it. That thing is basically a detuned, streetified version of the bike Nicky Hayden rode last year. No seamless box, no pneumatic valves, no super-duper electronics, less power, etc.
Chaz recently did four seconds off his SBK time at Imola on the '15 R (on street tires, no less), so there's a decent performance delta. Last year at Phillip Island, Chaz' best race lap was only one tenth off Nicky's best on the open class RC213V, with most being about a second off. So the GP bike was barely quicker than the '14 Ducati SBK bike. No doubt the street version will be a cool bike, but I'll be surprised if it's much over a second a lap quicker than an R - at best. Not that anyone's going to risk binning one anyway; collector's special I'd say.
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Had seen that in MCN. Think I'd save my money and go for the bargain basement Panigale R instead!
After all, think about it. That thing is basically a detuned, streetified version of the bike Nicky Hayden rode last year. No seamless box, no pneumatic valves, no super-duper electronics, less power, etc.
Chaz recently did four seconds off his SBK time at Imola on the '15 R (on street tires, no less), so there's a decent performance delta. Last year at Phillip Island, Chaz' best race lap was only one tenth off Nicky's best on the open class RC213V, with most being about a second off. So the GP bike was barely quicker than the '14 Ducati SBK bike. No doubt the street version will be a cool bike, but I'll be surprised if it's much over a second a lap quicker than an R - at best. Not that anyone's going to risk binning one anyway; collector's special I'd say.
Who cares . What about the sound of it to be able to pull up anywhere and feel like a rock star because you have a massive wallet .Lifes too short to be modest if your loaded .
i saw a clip of it being started up somewhere and it was very disappointing, it basically just sounded like any normal honda without a racing exhaust.
With the desmo if you hear it being started it's a major event and that's part of the appeal.
The bike look amazing and with it being a honda i'm sure it will handle great and it does look like a motogp bike which has got to be worth an extra 100k
With the desmo if you hear it being started it's a major event and that's part of the appeal.
The bike look amazing and with it being a honda i'm sure it will handle great and it does look like a motogp bike which has got to be worth an extra 100k
Had seen that in MCN. Think I'd save my money and go for the bargain basement Panigale R instead!
After all, think about it. That thing is basically a detuned, streetified version of the bike Nicky Hayden rode last year. No seamless box, no pneumatic valves, no super-duper electronics, less power, etc.
I'd say.
but is that not the point it's a bike that was essentially on the motogp grid last year, for me there is a huge amount of appeal with that.
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I actually never want to care what other people think about my wallet.
I'd rather ride a bike that I can enjoy very much.
Now, if that RCV is enjoyable, I would love to try it, yeeeesh
Sounds sensible
For sure, I get that. But it seems to me that the true appeal of the bike is based on the real-deal RC that Marquez and Pedrosa ride, not the de-contented open bikes that have run towards the arse end of the bunch - which greatly reduces the cachet.
Of course the tech on the full-factory bikes that makes them so special is not transferrable to the street, and even if it was you wouldn't be able to access it without a team of HRC engineers at your disposal. But lacking that, the RC just isn't that special a bike that a $150K-ish street version holds real appeal, at least in my view. At $50-60K or so, maybe I can see the case for it; similar to the DD16. Or go further downmarket, say Panigale territory and homologate enough of them to run WSBK ala RC51. Then they've done something significant, which I don't see this as, at least not yet.
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Not worth what they will ask for it.
Doesn't benefit us in any way, or the manufacturer and was a giant waste of time. Just solidifys everyone's opinion about Honda and that they don't give a dam about the motorcycling community. The CBR1000 still sucks.
Looks like the street gear was an after thought, just looks tacky and cheap. The paintjob is one of if not the worst on any superbike we've seen this year and unless it's crazy light (180kg curb weight), has +210bhp at the rear wheel and is actually affordable by anyone who doesn't already have a Lamborghini Aventador, then who cares.
Doesn't benefit us in any way, or the manufacturer and was a giant waste of time. Just solidifys everyone's opinion about Honda and that they don't give a dam about the motorcycling community. The CBR1000 still sucks.
Looks like the street gear was an after thought, just looks tacky and cheap. The paintjob is one of if not the worst on any superbike we've seen this year and unless it's crazy light (180kg curb weight), has +210bhp at the rear wheel and is actually affordable by anyone who doesn't already have a Lamborghini Aventador, then who cares.
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I think Honda marketing guys are being f*“cked by their ........ bosses. They try to replicate what Ducati did the last couple of years (especially project 1201 and the Scrambler "initiative"). Kawasaki realized early enough that they would do good jumping on that train and they made a really good H2 campaing (just .... that the Japs can't make cool bikes homologated anymore). Suzuki and Honda are still sleeping.
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Live unveiling of the RC213v Tomorrow by Honda
Honda Livestreaming RC213V-S Unveiling Thursday, June 11 - Motorcycle.com News
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Honda Livestreaming RC213V-S Unveiling Thursday, June 11 - Motorcycle.com News
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Specs out...
Honda RCV road bike details revealed
156.8hp/75ft.lbs in road trim, with 170kg dry weight.
Honda RCV road bike details revealed
156.8hp/75ft.lbs in road trim, with 170kg dry weight.
I think the issue is more than looks, which are fine to me; it's more that there isn't that much difference between some of the street legal bikes we can buy these days and full-on racebikes. The Honda will be a collectible gem, no doubt. But unless I get really surprised, the performance isn't going to be much if any greater than what you can get off the showroom floor for 1/5 the cost (or less). The value will be based on rarity more than anything else.
The things that have made the RC213V an object of moto-lust are in the end, non-transferrable to a customer bike. And without those things, the appeal comes down to being able to have a finely crafted machine that only a few can or will. An uber-premium object of desire, but it won't slice bread much better than a regular knife.
The ideal time to release that bike would have been when they were looking invincible in MotoGP, not after the semi-fiasco of last year's RCV1000R customer bike and in the current era of the RC213V's perceived weakness. Timing is everything...
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I think it just goes to show you how mental a modern production sportbike is. Even the new superstockish WSBK's aren't that far off Moto GP times. Absolutely amazing times we live in for motorcycle enthusiasts.
On a personal note, the fact it sounds like a CBR1000rr totally ruined my buzz. And what happens when Honda debuts a new CBR1000rr that is 20 pounds lighter and makes more power? I know this likely isn't happening until the 2022 model, but still.
On a personal note, the fact it sounds like a CBR1000rr totally ruined my buzz. And what happens when Honda debuts a new CBR1000rr that is 20 pounds lighter and makes more power? I know this likely isn't happening until the 2022 model, but still.
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