Mv Agustas future??

Its a good time to buy bikes. AMG F4? The possibilities are endless there

Cool! Exciting times indeed.

This would be one of the best deals in the last decade, just give MV the money and resources they need and let them do their magic.

audi has been good for ducati so far so i guess this is good thing for mv as well. also this might help to see more mv dealers in usa who knows

TimMozart said:

This would be one of the best deals in the last decade, just give MV the money and resources they need and let them do their magic.

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Amen.... This is great.... Mo money + Mo resources = Great things

Someone will probably jump on Aprilia next.

BigBoost said:

Amen.... This is great.... Mo money + Mo resources = Great things

Someone will probably jump on Aprilia next.

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Doubtful. Aprilia doesn't suffer quite so from money issues since they're a subsidiary of Piaggio (who also own Moto Guzzi, Vespa, Derbi and a bunch of other stuff).

Charliem90 said:

Doubtful. Aprilia doesn't suffer quite so from money issues since they're a subsidiary of Piaggio (who also own Moto Guzzi, Vespa, Derbi and a bunch of other stuff).

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I thought Piaggio was on shaky ground financially? Something about the recession and regular Europeans not being able to buy as many scooters as they used to and such.

Either way, Aprilia, even though I'm a big fan of their motorcycles, is not much of a "jewel" like Ducati and MV are. These motorcycle companies are just playthings for the car companies that are fat and happy again and just looking for marketing toys. If this is true, it's more like Daimler watching VW and "monkey see, monkey do." It is curious that it was after AMG did a marketing tie-up with Ducati and the Diavel that VW bought Ducati. Like little kids in a sandbox...

My understanding is that all of these deals are built on the MPG requirements these car companies need to meet across all of their brands....apparently the requirement is across all registered vehicle types.

Adding motorbikes to their offering raises their per vehicle average MPG.

JeffD said:

I thought Piaggio was on shaky ground financially? Something about the recession and regular Europeans not being able to buy as many scooters as they used to and such.

Either way, Aprilia, even though I'm a big fan of their motorcycles, is not much of a "jewel" like Ducati and MV are. These motorcycle companies are just playthings for the car companies that are fat and happy again and just looking for marketing toys. If this is true, it's more like Daimler watching VW and "monkey see, monkey do." It is curious that it was after AMG did a marketing tie-up with Ducati and the Diavel that VW bought Ducati. Like little kids in a sandbox...

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I think the fact that the Rsv4r has remained basically unchanged for what??..5 yrs..says a lot about their R & D budgets....

hsharpag91 said:

My understanding is that all of these deals are built on the MPG requirements these car companies need to meet across all of their brands....apparently the requirement is across all registered vehicle types.

Adding motorbikes to their offering raises their per vehicle average MPG.

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If that was true then Piaggio would have been the first to have been bought because the bulk of their portfolio and sales are scooters with 100 mpg+. It's generally accepted that the VW Chairman always wanted Ducati and bought it as a birthday gift for himself, and to complete the diversification of the consumer transportation empire he has built.

Stw said:

I think the fact that the Rsv4r has remained basically unchanged for what??..5 yrs..says a lot about their R & D budgets....

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The bike keeps winning championships, even though BMW spent 4 years and far more money and couldn't do it. I think that speaks to the rightness of the fundamental design. If Marco Melandri would have gelled with the RSV4 earlier in the season the way he has lately, he would be on the way to a third championship on the same platform that debuted in 2009. Aprilia has a terrible dealer network and has never been able to translate their Sunday wins into Monday sales, even though their street bikes consistently earn praise and win comparisons. If they were only managed as well as Ducati, I think they would be much more of a force.

@JeffD..True..very true...But resting on your laurels has always been a flawed technique..they need to improve it...or else it will fade into history...

Stw said:

@JeffD..True..very true...But resting on your laurels has always been a flawed technique..they need to improve it...or else it will fade into history...

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I agree... It's way to competitive of a marketplace now & I love the brand, but they need to start pushing it.

Without the backing of these huge companies, I fear they will get left behind.

I for one, love it when these other bikes come out and keep pushing each other.

Makes for better bikes.