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I was talking to a friend of mine (ducati dealer in KY) and asked him how come there is no air filter with the termi system. He said the air filter in the 1199 is already high performance. Any input on this? Any recommendations from people who have changed theirs and did it do anything?
 
I swapped mine to an MWR street filter. I haven't had it on a dyno but the only noticeable difference is sound. However, i made the switch because its washable and reuseable.
 
I ordered the BMC Air Filter for my "S"....

Would that be a lot better than the stock paper pleated air filters?
Well one thing...its washable and reusable too....
 
I would like to see if someone has posted up some dyno numbers vers Stock and aftermarket filters to compare the numbers.
 
I ordered the BMC Air Filter for my "S"....

Would that be a lot better than the stock paper pleated air filters?
Well one thing...its washable and reusable too....
I'm told there's very little if any bump in performance from either filter. The benefit is, both are reusable as opposed to $50 a pop for the stock filter.
 
Can anyone tell me the difference between the MWR race filter and the HE filter? The description states they are both pre-oiled and should be washed and re-oiled once a year. Aside from the coffee filter, I'm considering upgrading here. I have the full termi system and have not had the new map uploaded yet, but considering an A/F module and dyno tune in the future if he up map doesn't satisfy.
 
Can anyone tell me the difference between the MWR race filter and the HE filter? The description states they are both pre-oiled and should be washed and re-oiled once a year. Aside from the coffee filter, I'm considering upgrading here. I have the full termi system and have not had the new map uploaded yet, but considering an A/F module and dyno tune in the future if he up map doesn't satisfy.

From my understanding the HE filter is good for about a year then clean and oil.
The race filter you need to check/clean reoil after every race weekend.
 
a few years ago, I read in a magazine which interviewed the Marketing Director of K and N airfilters and one of the questions went like this "How come you do not offer much airfilters for motorcycles?" The K and N employee said that most modern motorcycles has a very effecient airfilters already and the positioning of the Airfilter/airboxes are so good that they can pretty much do nothing about it. sure they can make a filter for any bike but it will not provie any noticeable performance gain.

So I am pretty sure with all the development the 1199 went through, the filters that they use is already high performance.
 
Performance Filters

For many years I had the pleasure of running a powersports R&D department - segmented off of a large multi-line dealership located in southern California. We developed high-performance engine kits for both on-road and off-road motorcycles and quads. While I do not have any personal experience with MWR or HE filters, I have extensive experience with both K&N filters and BMC filters. The basic idea of a high performance air filter is simple - less resistance &/or increased surface area = more cubic feet of air flow. It is difficult to increase the surface area of the filter given most stock "dry" element filters are already pleated. So aftermarket filters are left with one option, to decrease resistance. The only feasible method for doing this is to enlarge the "openings" or passages in the filter. A typical "stock" filter will yield about 5 micron passages, whereas a typical K&N filter will have passages as large as 20-25 microns (large enough to see light through when held up). The aftermarket filter companies combat this increased passage-way issue by utilizing sticky oil which is coated onto the element as a means of having particles stick to the filter when passing through. (Note - bikes typically do not utilize Mass Air Flow sensors in their fuel injection systems, MAF sensors are used in all new cars and trucks, and using an over-oiled K&N filter will damage these and cause problems.)

There is no doubt that the stock filter will provide better cleansing of the air entering the engine. If anyone tells you that an aftermarket "high-performance" air filter provides better engine protection then they are full of crap. While these type of filters are used heavily in on-road applications, you will never see an off-road professional race team (involved in long-distance endurance style racing - like SCORE (Baja 500,1000,etc.)) use a K&N filter - why? - because they let too much dirt in!!!

Regarding performance - I have dyno tuned hundreds of motorcycles, and the most power you will receive is maybe 1 - 2 hp at top end. You will receive no benefit in any throttle position other than full throttle because at those TPs the air filter is not the constraint or limiting factor. A couple bikes actually lost power (but I think it was because the owner over-oiled the filter).

So the only real benefit (in my humble opinion) to an aftermarket filter is the "re-usable" aspect. However be careful, most people do not have the patience to clean them properly and will use air compressors or heat guns to speed up the drying process, which damages the filter.

For all practical purposes, unless you are racing and are trying to squeeze every possible once of power out of your engine, protect your investment and stay with a stock filter.
 
Super happy with the performance my BMC airfilter....Just cleaned it, oiled it and you're ready to go...
 
There is no doubt that the stock filter will provide better cleansing of the air entering the engine. If anyone tells you that an aftermarket "high-performance" air filter provides better engine protection then they are full of crap.

I've said this for years, but few people believe it.

Furthermore, aftermarket air filters offer very little hp gain without forced induction. Even then, most of the gains are in the exhaust - proven countless times.

Aftermarket air filters are a "placebo mod" for street bikes
 

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