Question: Ceramic Pro Coating experience

BMW Alpina · Feb 15, 2020

Hello everyone,
I am thinking of doing Ceramic Pro Coating for my bike. Anyone here had experience done it to your bike?
If yes, may I know the price that you pay including Paint Correction and Ceramic Pro Gold Package?
How long did it take, especially for the multi layer Gold Package?

I prefer to do this at my home where the detailer visit us. Anyone done this at home? or perhaps maybe it's better (and cheaper) if I took out the gas tank and fairings and take them to the detailer...

Any input regarding pricing, time needed and result would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

DucatiKev · Feb 15, 2020

I’m not going to claim that it’ll keep itself clean but one wipe with protect all and all the Florida bugs are gone

Sherpa23 · Feb 15, 2020

I had my car detailer do some of my bikes. They use Gyeon Quartz ceramic products. The bikes came out incredibly nice and they’re very easy to clean and don’t pick up light scratches anywhere like they do without the coating.

I’ll dig through for pics...

DucatiKev · Feb 15, 2020

If you’re installing all of your accessories yourself and you enjoy a good project, buy a small buffer to polish your paint, and get the pint perfect. The actual process of applying the coating is about 3% of the actual effort

I would probably recommend just taking it to a high quality detailer once all accessories are installed. Have them give you the works: correct the pint, install some Paint Protection Film (PPF) in critical areas and have the bike fully coated

Locate your local Xpel dealer below
https://www.xpel.com/
Ceramic pro detailers are highly regarded too
https://ceramicpro.com/

This is where you want the PPF^

I’ve had my helmet ceramic coated too, highly recommend you do too

DucatiKev · Feb 15, 2020

If you don’t want to spend the $1,000 or so for a perfect job, and don’t want to polish the paint and do a full coating yourself, you could pickup a clay bar kit, get the paint nice and clean and then wipe on some Hydrosilex.

Literally just spray and wipe onto clean paint and it leave the paint slick to the touch

https://www.hydrosilex.com/pages/shop

BMW Alpina · Feb 15, 2020

Sherpa23 said:
I had my car detailer do some of my bikes. They use Gyeon Quartz ceramic products. The bikes came out incredibly nice and they’re very easy to clean and don’t pick up light scratches anywhere like they do without the coating.
I’ll dig through for pics...

Thanks Sherpa23 for the information. Is that a 998R? It is very nice. I wish I have some extra funds so I can purchase a 916 to pair with my bike.

DucatiKev said:
If you’re installing all of your accessories yourself and you enjoy a good project, buy a small buffer to polish your paint, and get the pint perfect. The actual process of applying the coating is about 3% of the actual effort
I would probably recommend just taking it to a high quality detailer once all accessories are installed. Have them give you the works: correct the pint, install some Paint Protection Film (PPF) in critical areas and have the bike fully coated
I’ve had my helmet ceramic coated too, highly recommend you do too

Thanks DucatiKev,
I actually have Makita 9237CX3 Makita 7" Polisher that I only use 1 time for my car, and I have Mother's ultimate wax system (3 stage wax) plus compound that I applied to my car manually with my hand.
But I prefer to have some professional do it for me this time. But I agree with you, I think I should finish installing all my accessories first then get the whole bike (whenever the surface allow it) to be ceramic coated.

Do any of you remember the pricing you pay to do paint correction and ceramic coating? I just want to get some pricing reference when I cross shopped with several detailer in my area (San Jose, California).

DucatiKev · Feb 15, 2020

I did my Daytona 675 myself and it came out amazing
Got a quote via email for my 1299 and it was $800

I thought my 1299S was going to be a show piece like yours but it turns out that it’s not the case at all. I’ve been riding it alot and don’t let the rain and filthy streets deter me from riding

My bikes and I are in Florida for the winter, and all of my detailing stuff is in philly. I’ll get it polished and coated in a couple months. Still looking into “graphene coating” solutions, that’s like the next gen from ceramic coating.

https://grapheneautoprotection.com/aboutus/
https://iglcoatingsusa.com/product/igl-f4-renew/
My brother in laws X5 was $2,800 for full polish and ceramic coat (no PPF but he should have)

My sisters Range R Evoque was $2,000 in 2018

I clayed my highlander and sprayed it with Hydrosilex and it lasts pretty good but the truck gets dirty quick because it doesn’t have a space in the garage

Sherpa23 · Feb 15, 2020

BMW Alpina said:
Thanks Sherpa23 for the information. Is that a 998R? It is very nice. I wish I have some extra funds so I can purchase a 916 to pair with my bike.

I do have a 998R but that was actually one of my 996R’s.

For the record, the work these guys (Gyeon USA) do is incredible. They use a professional ceramic finish that’s not available to consumers. They have a consumer ready version but this one requires a very specific application with a IR curing process. I have compared both side to side and for me it’s definitely worth the difference for the professional application, in my opinion.

Also, I have PPF on all of the sports cars but not on any of the motorcycles. The ceramic coating is great.

DucatiKev · Feb 15, 2020

Yeah the curing process is neat.

does the ceramic coating prevent stone chips by the bottom of the radiator? I feel like it needs PPF down there

HKMP7 · Feb 15, 2020

Im a detailer and I have my bike ceramic coated. It’s definitely not easy or quick if you aren’t familar then find someone in your area that does bikes. There are some similarities with cars but some car detailers don’t know how a rider interacts with a bike. If you need at help or tips pm.

HKMP7 · Feb 15, 2020

DucatiKev said:
Yeah the curing process is neat.

does the ceramic coating prevent stone chips by the bottom of the radiator? I feel like it needs PPF down there

Ceramic does not prevent rock chips. You would use PPF for that.

ArcticWhite · Feb 16, 2020

The best of both worlds is to PPF the entire bike with self healing film and then ceramic coat the PPF. The PPF prevents chips and scratches/swirls, the ceramic coat repels water and makes the bike super easy to maintain. I'm in the process of PPF'ing my entire bike right now. After having a car entirely PPF'd, I will never go back to anything else. Stays looking new and perfect with no swirls forever (or at least the 10yrs the warranty is for).

BMW Alpina · Feb 16, 2020

Sherpa23 said:
I do have a 998R but that was actually one of my 996R’s.
For the record, the work these guys (Gyeon USA) do is incredible. They use a professional ceramic finish that’s not available to consumers. They have a consumer ready version but this one requires a very specific application with a IR curing process. I have compared both side to side and for me it’s definitely worth the difference for the professional application, in my opinion.
Also, I have PPF on all of the sports cars but not on any of the motorcycles. The ceramic coating is great.

Hi Sherpa23,
Will the PPF make the car color ever slightly duller compare without PPF?

ArcticWhite said:
The best of both worlds is to PPF the entire bike with self healing film and then ceramic coat the PPF. The PPF prevents chips and scratches/swirls, the ceramic coat repels water and makes the bike super easy to maintain. I'm in the process of PPF'ing my entire bike right now. After having a car entirely PPF'd, I will never go back to anything else. Stays looking new and perfect with no swirls forever (or at least the 10yrs the warranty is for).

Hi ArcticWhite,
Did you apply the PPF your self or have an installer doing it for you?

ArcticWhite · Feb 16, 2020

I'm doing it myself as a try, but ordered 2 kits from thetankslapper, so anything that I dont do a perfect job on I will take to an installer and still have a pre-cut piece.

I've done lots of wrapping and I can tell you if you dont have experience, it is very tough to do a perfect job. I'd recommend letting a professional do it if you haven't done it before.

Also with PPF, if you decide to do it yourself, be aware if never looks good right after you finish. It is impossible to get all of the bubbles out. They evaporate over about 7 days. You would swear I did a crappy job and 7 days later it looks perfect.

The big thing is make sure no large bubbles, no peeling up or wrinkles (on complex shapes this requires a bit of stretching and a lot of working the "bunched up" material down) and finally make sure there are no contaminants under the film (piece is perfectly clean and has no lint on it).

All of the pieces in these pictures were wrapped by me.

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Sherpa23 · Feb 16, 2020

BMW Alpina said:
Hi Sherpa23,
Will the PPF make the car color ever slightly duller compare without PPF?

I am not sure what you are asking. On my cars, I either have all of the car or most of the car covered with PPF and there is no color difference with the PPF and non PPF. The entire car is ceramic coated, including the PPF, and there is a UV protectant in there. Is that what you are asking?

Also, one of the reasons that I don't have PPF on my bikes is that most of my bikes have carbon bodywork and on a couple of them (like the Superleggera for example) I don't think that the PPF would come off without a decent possibility of some paint coming off with it.

I absolutely do believe in PPF and I think that it would be ideal on the radiator/oil V pieces and some other parts but I would like to see how they would do seamless PPF on bikes with the complex curves, edges, vents, and all the other parts that are way more difficult than even the most difficult car. You can't see the PPF on any of my cars. I don't know how they do that on a motorbike.

HKMP7 · Feb 16, 2020

I only do PPF on the high impact areas.
Upper, Headlights, and fender

DucatiKev · Feb 16, 2020

Exactly, HKMP7. Cover at least the critical areas with PPF & super slick coating

bradp51 · Feb 16, 2020

Sherpa23 said:
I had my car detailer do some of my bikes. They use Gyeon Quartz ceramic products. The bikes came out incredibly nice and they’re very easy to clean and don’t pick up light scratches anywhere like they do without the coating.

I’ll dig through for pics...

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Hi Sherpa23,
I know off topic. Is that a F430 ? Ferrari

Back on topic. I did Tankslapper on my bike but next time I would use a professional as my application skills were not up to doing a great job. It did work well protecting the parts though.

Sherpa23 · Feb 17, 2020

bradp51 said:
Hi Sherpa23,
I know off topic. Is that a F430 ? Ferrari

Nope. It's actually a Ferrari 360 but you are not incorrect as it doesn't look like a typical 360. It started life as a manual transmission 360 with only a couple of options and then it was later fitted with body work from a Challenge Stradale and a series of suspension and other parts from some F430 race cars. It's a pretty neat car and it's been featured in some of the Ferrari magazines. It has a bit more power than standard but is a great deal lighter and is very enjoyable to drive both on the road and on the track.

BMW Alpina · Feb 17, 2020

Thank You everyone for their input. I decide that I will do paint correction and ceramic coating, but only after I install most of the modifications in the coming month so every new part that can be ceramic coated will be coated.
But without PPF. Thanks again.

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