R1 faster Panigale 1299? - How about the R

Mutt1979 said:

A good dump?!?!



I have mine, what do you need to know?!?

I know what you mean though, it has almost been like a media blackout. Why no reviews etc?! What are they hiding was my worry, but the new R is amazing......... would like to see one up against the 1299 though.

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Thanks for the response! What I need to know is...
1: I spoke with a friend that came from Spain, Ducati conference. His words are ... this is the Superleggera...
Do you think that's why ducati don't wanna talk about it?
Can you tell us more about this bike?
Are you taking it to the track? I'm excited about it and I can not find any youtube or online videos for this amazing machine.
Thanks bud!

Lol, I already told you. Ducati has not yet held the media/press release of the R. It's coming in the next two weeks. Kope mentioned that they were still finalizing the spec not very long ago. TJ would know the answer for sure on that, but he hasn't been around lately, probably busy as hell. In about two weeks, you will see all kinds of coverage on the bike, but at the moment, the R1 is getting all the attention because they have actually been able to ride it and specs were released early.

Be patient, it's coming. Being the volume leader, and the fact it's shipping first, Ducati has been pushing out the 1299 for now.

Wouldn't surprise me if the R1 was easier to ride fast. The Panigale has a rep for being harder to get the most out of than some of its competition. Panigale is probably the most rewarding bike once you tame it, but nobody has ever said it's an easy bike to jump on and go fast.

Buliwyf said:

Potato?

BS bench racing. Just ride. If you can ride the bike to it's 100% limit and it's slower still, then just fix it. I wouldn't talk a BMW guy out of his BMW just because a Panigale was 0.3 seconds faster in a magazine review. There's a thousand things that can give you 0.3 seconds back.

A buddy of mine memorizes every Magazine superbike shootout. He's never been on a track. Likely never will go to the track. So what's the point?

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Nailed it.

Im on several brand based forums (and a long time Moderator on one of them) and I can't count how many Magazine Review threads there are. It is almost comical how much stock people put into those things.

Just because somebody went faster/slower while testing for a magazine, that means absolutely nothing when it comes to the final consumer. What is his experience? How fast is in in general? Did they make any changes to the bike (suspension, tires, ergo's, gearing, etc) to try to help him go faster? Did track conditions or ambient temps change from one session to the next? What about tire conditions (did the previous tester get new tires, and when he got on the bike did they already have 20 laps on them)?

0.3sec means he basically missed one apex by a few feet, or he was a split second later getting on the gas exiting one corner, or he missed a shift, or he had a minor wheelspin/slide trying to come out of one corner. I could go on and on. There are a million things that can cause somebody's lap time to be 0.3sec off, and none of those are any indication of the bikes' true capabilities or lack thereof.

Very few people in the galaxy can extract every ounce of performance out of a modern sportbike, even a 600cc. And neither an R1 nor a Panigale will be the limiting factor in an individual's success and/or lap times.

The bike, any bike, is fine...just ride it.

zx7md said:

Thanks for the response! What I need to know is...
1: I spoke with a friend that came from Spain, Ducati conference. His words are ... this is the Superleggera...
Do you think that's why ducati don't wanna talk about it?
Can you tell us more about this bike?
Are you taking it to the track? I'm excited about it and I can not find any youtube or online videos for this amazing machine.
Thanks bud!

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I've heard the new R is as good as the superlerggera. If that's the case there will be some p*ssed off superleggera owners. Maybe it's why they aren't saying too much?

So far, the breaks are sharper, much sharper. The homologated Akra sounds amazing, but still only running in revs. It's light, really light, even compared to last years R. I never really got on with the electronic suspension either, but this mechanical set up for me feels much better, straight out of the box. I also have it in flat and it still feels softer than last years bike, but the new seat may be helping there? It sticks like glue!!

Still stuck at work offshore so no real time spent with the bike yet, will post more when I can.......

fastest bike

These magazine bike comparos always seem to leave out what I am most interested in......which bike should I get that makes me look the fastest. As the ultimate poseur I need to know what to ride down to Caputo's in my one piece leathers for an espresso, park at the curb, and have everyone else parked there, and at the sidewalk tables, Believe I am the fastest

I am writing this during a break from getting the Panigale ready to go to the track for the first time. I will be signing in with a pseudonym lest it leaks out how slow I am and spoil my image.

All in fun, no disrespect to anyone else who has commented seriously on this thread.