rear disc brake rotor issue

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Brad said:
As I said before.
This guy is clueless and inexperienced at least.
Let alone to be riding the thing like he has. (note the condition of the front discs)
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Brad,
You dont know me and i dont know you.. i do not try to break the sound barrier on this bike so please leave these assumptions/accusation to yourself..

i'm attaching pictures just for you ;)
the bike has 3500 miles on it and half of them have been with my wife on the back.. i'm safe and put no one in harms way
 

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konrads said:
just went out for a closer look and i didnt like what i saw.. thank you for the replies and i'm answering all your questions below:


TOPOLINO:
1.Wow.. no friction material left on the right side as you said and no i did not feel the extra travel and i'll tell you why.. when i'm turning the rear wheel in neutral i feel and hear the brakes dragging/grinding.. there's a few mm of material left on the left side.. everything is OEM
2. The chain corrosion is from storing the bike in not the greatest of places. Since I moved i'm forced to keep the bike outdoors.. i have it in a self made tent but it's still outdoors :( the bike has 3500 miles on it so i havent been concerned about brakes yet since i dont do anything crazy on it.

FIREMAN:
i guess this may be a stuck piston

BRAD:
relax :) i'm no superbike expert nor have i done any track days yet but i'm very gentle on the bike and i have the uncommon gift of common sense.. i'm not a squid and enjoy my rides and i do know that most of the breaking is done with the front

QUESTION:
having the bike outdoors (in a tent but i know humidity and freezing temps still gets to it) could this be the most likely cause if it being a stuck piston?
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Ok.
So now we're getting to the bottom of it.

So far it looks like you've worn your rear pad down to the backing plate.
That's what's done the worst of the damage to your disc.
It's .......
As I've said there'll be no warranty for you.
Jesus Christ wouldn't give you warranty.
As my grandfather used to say "there's no experience like the one you pay for".

Let me say this.
Your maintenance is either NON EXISTANT or woefull.
You have no idea what you're dealing with AT ALL.
You're not easy on the gear like you say. The blued discolouration on the FRONT and rear discs gives you away.
And you're riding a machine that's way beyond your experience level.
You're sadly on the way to doing some damage to someone else other than yourself.

It's highly unlikely that the pad material "just fell off" on the inboard pad.
If this machine needs pads before the scheduled service interval(assuming you're under 12000 Kms), and you're mostly riding on the street then you're riding like a maniac and or not maintaining your machine in the "APPROPRIATE MANNER".

Go and get yourself a copy of Smooth Riding the Pridmore way by Reg Pridmore.
Get some riding lessons from someone that's highly reputable.

I wish you a MERRY and (Safe) CHRISTMAS.
 
Brad said:
Ok.
So now we're getting to the bottom of it.

So far it looks like you've worn your rear pad down to the backing plate.
That's what's done the worst of the damage to your disc.
It's .......
As I've said there'll be no warranty for you.
Jesus Christ wouldn't give you warranty.
As my grandfather used to say "there's no experience like the one you pay for".

Let me say this.
Your maintenance is either NON EXISTANT or woefull.
You have no idea what you're dealing with AT ALL.
You're not easy on the gear like you say. The blued discolouration on the FRONT and rear discs gives you away.
And you're riding a machine that's way beyond your experience level.
You're sadly on the way to doing some damage to someone else other than yourself.

It's highly unlikely that the pad material "just fell off" on the inboard pad.
If this machine needs pads before the scheduled service interval(assuming you're under 12000 Kms), and you're mostly riding on the street then you're riding like a maniac and or not maintaining your machine in the "APPROPRIATE MANNER".

Go and get yourself a copy of Smooth Riding the Pridmore way by Reg Pridmore.
Get some riding lessons from someone that's highly reputable.

I wish you a MERRY and (Safe) CHRISTMAS.
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Brad, you friends with Mark ?

:)
 
Brad said:
What are you doing getting on the rear so hard??????
There's absolutely no legitimate reason for that on a rear:mad:
Sorry but you've been flogging the living daylights out of the rear.
There'll be no warranty for you my friend:(

See the blue heat marks near the inner edge of the friction zone where it mounts to the carrier, also the blue heat ring around the outer edge of the rotor.
That's the give away.

You have also had the brake pad start to pick up on bits of itself that's already bonded to the rotor. It just tears the pad apart and it starts to bond onto itself.

I've only ever seen this on the front rotors of race bikes.
Never ever on the rear.
You are much too much hard on the gear.

You need to get some superbike school riding lessons before you kill yourself.
IMO. Get yourself a book called Smooth Riding by Pridmore.
Or just learn to ride properly. Not like a lunatic out of control.

Maybe your also trolling.
I don't know
This beggars belief:mad:
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I do not think it has anything to do with his riding. As Phil said check out pic number 4"¦it is quite obvious the pad came off the right side and he did not notice it and it has damaged the rotor due to metal on metal.

Perhaps the rotor can be machined.

BTW Merry Christmas everyone.:)
 
Has riding the back brake due to poor foot placement been discussed? That would be a simple reason for it having such wear after so little miles. Is your right toe always covering the brake pedal when you ride around town?
 
K3yra7 said:
Has riding the back brake due to poor foot placement been discussed? That would be a simple reason for it having such wear after so little miles. Is your right toe always covering the brake pedal when you ride around town?
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Yes it's been mentioned. But he doesn't actually say how many miles are on the machine.
Like I said, if that's going on then the guy's too clueless and out of his depth to be riding a machine like this. IMO.

I can't rule out the possibility that he's a troll, but then again he'd be coming back to the forum to wind up the crowd some more if he was trolling.
So I'm thinking he's just out of his depth.
 
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Ok guys...Enough.....

lets have some info here or shall we just kill the thread???
 
Steve,
After new years i'll be going to ducati of manhattan to schedule a service appointment so i'd like to share at a later point what they had to say.. if it's within your power just to block brad from posting please do :)
 
konrads said:
Steve,
After new years i'll be going to ducati of manhattan to schedule a service appointment so i'd like to share at a later point what they had to say.. if it's within your power just to block brad from posting please do :)
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Konrads

I asked you to redact your post..you didn't..so I deleted it....
 
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konrads said:
Steve,
After new years i'll be going to ducati of manhattan to schedule a service appointment so i'd like to share at a later point what they had to say.. if it's within your power just to block brad from posting please do :)
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Please keep us posted.....had rear brake issues on my 1098S before.
 
Check that your rear brake master cylinder is properly adjusted. The incident I mentioned in an earlier post was caused by this and was through no fault of the rider. As I said, I make no assumptions about individuals I know nothing about, so I can't say with any authority what was, or is, the real underlying cause of your brake issues, BUT it is highly unusual for this kind of a failure to occur without some degree of forewarning, so all that can be summized from this is a need for more regular inspection of your machine, before a minor problem becomes a bigger one. Brad, that in itself is not a vehicle to lambast people who may not have the presence of mind to check things that may appear obvious to you and others. Equally, and this goes to the OP, any retort needs to be measured, so as you don't appear to have resorted to the lowest common denominator, of pure and simple abuse. If this once potentially informative thread is going to dissolve into a slanging match between you two, where is the benefit in that to others, aside from cheap entertainment, if you can call it that?
 
That's not very nice:eek:
You say terrible things.

Did you get that book I recommended to you for Christmas?
It will make very informative reading for you over the holidays:)
 
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And now wve e've made excuses for failing disc brakes: pads, rotors, calipers, etc etc.

Brad you can honestly see his front rotors condition? I've tried zooming with my macbook and don't see this "flogging" you allege. You really have a big ....... hard-on for EVERYONE who encounters a problem with this bike, eh? I mean I don't recall ever seeing you post a HELPFUL comment. Just bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. Blown slaves? Rider fault. Leaking gaskets? Riders fault- he doesn't pull the bike apart after every ride, so its his fault. Bolts falling out? Riders fault. Because remember- when we buy the bike (ya know after the $400 setup fee) we're supposed to disassemble it and reassemble it using 271 Loctite... Give it up already and understand many of these bikes have had issues solely the bikes (Ducati's) fault!

Now, op, this definitely appears to be an isolated/rare incidence and it appears the pad may've been defective. Best of luck on the upcoming warranty battle on "wear and tear" parts.

Lastly, if you would like, next time you're by the shore in NJ (your account says NYC, but your plate NJ???) feel free to shoot me a message, as I wouldn't mind riding with another 1199. I'm trying to get a meeting together come spring with some other guys from the NJ/NYC area here I'd like to meet.
 
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konrads said:
Steve,
After new years i'll be going to ducati of manhattan to schedule a service appointment so i'd like to share at a later point what they had to say.. if it's within your power just to block brad from posting please do :)
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Brad is by far the biggest community ......... we have here.

I sympathize with ya OP. I've felt the wrath of the slugging match that occurs on here on every single thread about every single issue with this bike from the "Ducati Defenders." (Some of) These guys place Ducati above the Roman Catholic church in their "almightyness." Yes, I made that word up.

#NOFILTER
 
Despite some of the blowhard posts, I'm willing to bet you have corrosion buildup from storing your bike outside. This likely caused things to hang up and wear that outboard pad down to the backing plate. Exposing the bare metals in the brake system to the weather/elements continuously without constant maintenance to keep things moving freely can cause the piston, pins, master cylinder, clevis, pads, etc. to bind up. I'd do whatever it takes to store your bike indoors from now on. If you don't have the money to replace that rear rotor, you can probably get the surface cleaned up and it will work fine (since it's a rear). Take care of your equipment so your equipment takes care of you. Good luck! :)
 
White13Pani said:
And now wve e've made excuses for failing disc brakes: pads, rotors, calipers, etc etc.

Brad you can honestly see his front rotors condition? I've tried zooming with my macbook and don't see this "flogging" you allege. You really have a big ....... hard-on for EVERYONE who encounters a problem with this bike, eh? I mean I don't recall ever seeing you post a HELPFUL comment. Just bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. Blown slaves? Rider fault. Leaking gaskets? Riders fault- he doesn't pull the bike apart after every ride, so its his fault. Bolts falling out? Riders fault. Because remember- when we buy the bike (ya know after the $400 setup fee) we're supposed to disassemble it and reassemble it using 271 Loctite... Give it up already and understand many of these bikes have had issues solely the bikes (Ducati's) fault!

Now, op, this definitely appears to be an isolated/rare incidence and it appears the pad may've been defective. Best of luck on the upcoming warranty battle on "wear and tear" parts.

Lastly, if you would like, next time you're by the shore in NJ (your account says NYC, but your plate NJ???) feel free to shoot me a message, as I wouldn't mind riding with another 1199. I'm trying to get a meeting together come spring with some other guys from the NJ/NYC area here I'd like to meet.
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moved from linden in union county to queens a year ago, hence the jersey plates. If you're not a member already, there is a ducati owners of NY club on meetup.com (Ducati Owners Club New York City (New York, NY) - Meetup).. cool bunch of dudes, safe riders.. and i'll hit you up when i come to jersey in better weather..

as for all the posts about issues about this bike.. i do not want to become a part of that, i dont want to jinx myself :eek:

as PILOT mentioned, the first thing that came to my mind is the unfortunate storage of the bike in the elements but if i end up paying for a new rotor that wont kill me.
 
My rear brake is still brand new and I have more than 14 000 km's on my bike. I tried the rear brake just for interest about once or twice, but its effects are negligible in sofar as slowing down is concerned. :cool:
 

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