1. No i dont own the full system, i have an 1199S with Termi Slips, 13,000km on the clock. If one has to own a product to form an opinion, regardless of the available data then that would be rather limiting. An intelligent individual should be able to evaluate the data and form an opinion regardless.
2. My first post was by way of clarification of Icemans and based on the opinions of some that do and some that don't own the full system. It was delivered without prejudice and with the qualification that it was a commonly held view which I backed with some supporting evidence from the forum.
In my experience, by evaluating a range of opinions from individuals that have consistently demonstrated sound judgement, and with the aid of supporting data, it is possible to make valid purchase decisions.
In this instance there is potentially a value judgement to be made - get 70% of the power for 57% of the price of a full system. It is only one piece of the puzzle, looks, sound and other performance issues such as torque, rideability are all factors that will no doubt impact a personal opinion. Which btw Is why I have not questioned the validity of your opinion. You clearly don't agree which is your prerogative.
3. I'd hazard a guess I've owned more Italian machinery or the two and four wheeled variety than most in the last 25 years so I understand full well my motivations for buying the things both emotional and rational. Power is both a rational and an emotional metric. In the early days of this forum when the first bikes were being delivered and dyno'd there were a lot of people feeling pretty disappointed having gone with their emotions with the 'assurance' that the were getting the rational numbers to back up their purchase.
You also seem to keep referencing 'funds' as if being able to have the money to buy is somehow the only defining issue. Price is irrelevant if the individuals perceived value of the product is high enough. Many people have voted with their wallets and decided to go with the full system and others have made decided on slips but both perceive their decision to be correct. I've put the savings towards a deposit on the new BMW HP4 - my value judgement.
The impression you give with your 'take you seriously comments' is that somehow my opinion, or that of numerous forum members is less valid than your own. I'm glad that other members have a more open mind and a more inclusive approach.
Me thinks you protest too much
