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I get between 1,000 and 1,500 out of a set and the front and back go at the same rate.
Front looks like a triangle, wearing on both sides, and the rear wears in the middle. Nothing but twisty roads; no commuting, interstates, or riding around town.
 
My front was gone before the rear also. The rear had a little left but I went ahead changed both at 4300mi.
 
On my 1199S i did 7000km on a set of tires, no track only open roads and twisties. When I replaced the tires both front and rear was worn almost equally with the front maybe slightly more than the back.
 
Yeah, this thread confirms it. 6690 mi. and my front tire still has good meat on it. My back is 5,000 miles in and is about to "catch a nail."

Are you saying that your front tire has done 6,690 miles (10,766 km) while you have lost all the bolts and stuff? Something does not add up. Nobody can do that mileage with the OEM tires with this bike.
 
Are you saying that your front tire has done 6,690 miles (10,766 km) while you have lost all the bolts and stuff? Something does not add up. Nobody can do that mileage with the OEM tires with this bike.

6,900 miles and my front tire is still at about 30+% tread. I'm not a hard rider by any means.
 
You are joking, getting 9000 miles with your tires?

:eek:

Then again the last 25% of the tyre tread disappears pretty quick on the Pirelli's.

That's what I like about them. You pretty much know when you're going need them with plenty of notice when they get down to that low;)
 
I seem to have the same problem with my front tyre wear as some of you guys. I changed front and rear this summer at the same time. The front tyre was worn after just 1500km. The rear is still ok and I might get approx. 4000km out of it.

On my old bikes the tyres usually wore out equally. Normally the rear a bit sooner than the front. It's just annoying to change tyres once a month!

I ride mountain roads and twisties only, fast pace usually. No commuting and very few highways. And I stick to the pressure recommendations from Ducati.

I'm thinking it might be either a set up problem or wrong tyre pressures, but not sure. Any ideas what to change?
 
That front tire wear pattern's not really unusual for a quick pace on the road. You're carrying decent corner speed and thus pushing the front, but on a bike like the Pani you're just not really hammering the throttle off the corners like you would on track, not unless you spend a lot of time at seriously illegal velocity. And on those times you are giving it some stick, the magic orange light on the dash is telling you why the rear tire wear isn't worse than it is. Turn the TC down/off and see how the rear tire fares then... ;)
 
That front tire wear pattern's not really unusual for a quick pace on the road. You're carrying decent corner speed and thus pushing the front, but on a bike like the Pani you're just not really hammering the throttle off the corners like you would on track, not unless you spend a lot of time at seriously illegal velocity. And on those times you are giving it some stick, the magic orange light on the dash is telling you why the rear tire wear isn't worse than it is. Turn the TC down/off and see how the rear tire fares then... ;)

Thanks Steve B fpr your appreciation of my road pace :D Strangely, this wear pattern never happened before with my GSX-R1000, although I did not change my riding style or speed. The only real difference is probably more speed at the exit of corners (because I can trust the TC and don't have to be afraid of high siders). Just wanted to be sure that its not a set up issue which can be adjusted.

The guys at my dealership told me that the front tyre wears because I'm breaking into corners too much and that I should adjust my EBC, in order to brake more with the engine. But the front tyre is mostly worn at its side, not in the middle. That, to my understanding, shows its working hard at corner exits, when the bike is leaned over.

I always though that when your riding skills improve, you would start using more rear tyre? And I wonder how people can get 4000 miles and more out of a set of Pirellis!? Are they driving on ice?
 
Mostly Canyon/twisties and some track days (all on OEM SP's):
1st Rear 1407km
2nd Rear 800km (2 track days)
3rd Rear 1300km

1st front 3550km

I actually bought a second rear wheel and mounted a Metzeler Z8 to reduce rear (road)tire cost.
The Panigale defnitely inspires faster corner entry, which I believe will show on front tire wear, but it is not evident that it effects my tire wear.

Just for reference:
weight 230lbs 106kg,
OEM suspension changed with TTX and NIX cartidges
EBC 3
 
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Are you saying that your front tire has done 6,690 miles (10,766 km) while you have lost all the bolts and stuff? Something does not add up. Nobody can do that mileage with the OEM tires with this bike.

I had to change my rear tyre at 11 500 km. The front was still serviceable. Then that lady caused the accident at about 14 000 km with the original front still on. The dragon lady is now at just over 20 000 km's and the new tyres (put on after the accident) still looks good. :D
 
I wear them both the same.

32/31 psi canyons only, pushing it at a medium clip.


2000 tops, at 1200 they are close to he wear bars. Same as my 848.

Q3's will do 2500.
 
Thanks Steve B fpr your appreciation of my road pace :D Strangely, this wear pattern never happened before with my GSX-R1000, although I did not change my riding style or speed. The only real difference is probably more speed at the exit of corners (because I can trust the TC and don't have to be afraid of high siders). Just wanted to be sure that its not a set up issue which can be adjusted.

The guys at my dealership told me that the front tyre wears because I'm breaking into corners too much and that I should adjust my EBC, in order to brake more with the engine. But the front tyre is mostly worn at its side, not in the middle. That, to my understanding, shows its working hard at corner exits, when the bike is leaned over.

I always though that when your riding skills improve, you would start using more rear tyre? And I wonder how people can get 4000 miles and more out of a set of Pirellis!? Are they driving on ice?

I think the dealer is partly right about it being due to braking into corners. However, while it's always worth experimenting, I don't think dialing in more engine braking is necessarily the answer (if there is one, other than new rubber), or that it means you're doing anything wrong at all. I just think that with a liter bike on the street, while in order to have a bit of fun you will carry some corner speed, unless you tend to be running at ton-up pace a lot you just aren't really whacking the throttle open off the corners, which is what you'd do on the track. Do that on the street and you'll be at warp speed on every straight bit of road. Easily doable of course, but probably not such a good idea in regular practice... :p

I trail brake nearly or to the apex myself, and end up shaving the sides off my fronts. My rears tend to wear pretty evenly in season, and more in the middle in the cooler months since the grip's lower and you're not jumping off the corners as hard as in Summer. I find that in Summer I will usually run a lower gear in a given corner and with the resulting higher rpm/power, like a bit more TC and less EBC. Then in the other seasons, I carry a higher gear and run less TC and more EBC. All the tires I've run on the Pani so far (SP's, Q3's, S20's) have exhibited this pattern more or less, and have lasted about 2500 miles +/- a few hundred.

Bottom line, I think wear patterns in street riding tell you more about your environment and riding style than about setup.
 
I hit the front tire wear bars a few hundred miles ahead of my rear tire, which I was surprised at, but after reading this thread, apparently not the only one. I hit the wear bars at 2200 miles. If a soft front contributes to that, then that's the answer in my case because I can't get the sag on the rear spring to set. I need to swap down to a 85Nm. The wear is consistent all the way across both tires, including the untouched last .5 inch on the front and rear that I've yet to explore with my skills and speed. Setup wise I run the recommended PSI listed on the frame, TC at 2, and EBC at 2 in Race Hi Mode.
 
I think the dealer is partly right about it being due to braking into corners. However, while it's always worth experimenting, I don't think dialing in more engine braking is necessarily the answer (if there is one, other than new rubber), or that it means you're doing anything wrong at all. I just think that with a liter bike on the street, while in order to have a bit of fun you will carry some corner speed, unless you tend to be running at ton-up pace a lot you just aren't really whacking the throttle open off the corners, which is what you'd do on the track. Do that on the street and you'll be at warp speed on every straight bit of road. Easily doable of course, but probably not such a good idea in regular practice... :p

I trail brake nearly or to the apex myself, and end up shaving the sides off my fronts. My rears tend to wear pretty evenly in season, and more in the middle in the cooler months since the grip's lower and you're not jumping off the corners as hard as in Summer. I find that in Summer I will usually run a lower gear in a given corner and with the resulting higher rpm/power, like a bit more TC and less EBC. Then in the other seasons, I carry a higher gear and run less TC and more EBC. All the tires I've run on the Pani so far (SP's, Q3's, S20's) have exhibited this pattern more or less, and have lasted about 2500 miles +/- a few hundred.

Bottom line, I think wear patterns in street riding tell you more about your environment and riding style than about setup.

Duly noted! At least it seems I'm not doing anything wrong. The wear on both tyres is even. And you're right, I'm not pinning it too hard at the exits, due to police restictions (the fines in Switzerland are astronomic and after a certain speed excess, the police can actually collect your bike!) :eek:

Anyway, I'll talk to the dealer and discuss tyre options. I wonder how it's gonna be with Q3's, Conti Sport Attack or Bridgestones. In the past I got about 3500km out of a set of Conti's at the same pace. But since they've changed their Sport Attack tyre, this might have changed too?
 

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