What fork is on the v4s?

Apparently it’s not as clear as I thought it would be on the ohlins site but what fork product # is on the v4s? Not the Ducati part# but the ohlins fork product? I know it’s a NIX 30 cartridge but looking for the fork model itself.

You will not be able to find the forks on Ohlins website because you have the electronic suspension. For example if someone came to me to buy a set of forks for their 1299S or V4S i would not be able to sell them Ohlins forks because of the electronic suspension. And you cant upgrade the internals either because Ohlins doesnt make an upgraded drop in cartridge kit that is electronic compatible. Now lets take the BMW S1000RR that comes with electronic suspension. Only one company in the US sells replacement upgraded drop in cartridges and the electronic upgraded rear shock. Its a company called Beemeshop and they sell upgraded electronic drop in cartridges and rear shocks for the BMW's made by TracTive. TracTive is a either a Swiss or Swedish company that actually designed BMW's first electronic suspension and continued designing and upgrading it for them year after year. But the suspension they sold was always better than what BMW bought from them because BMW wanted to save money. Eventually they parted ways and BMW learned how to make an electronic suspension. Although TracTiv's is always better year after year compared to BMW's

That being said the FGT 203 forks that can replace the base forks on the 1299 come with the NIX 30mm cartridges. But guys upgrade even more by replacing the NIX 30mm cartridges with Ohlins FKR cartridges (they cost always as much as the entire FGRT 203 front forks. In my opinion the Ducati 1299S and V4S electronic suspension is just a little better in quality that the base front forks and rear shock. Yes its Ohlins but all bike companies ask Ohlins and other suspension manufacturers to make the suspensions to their company specs which arent as good as say the the actual aftermarket suspension. Meaning the Ohlins forks with their internals and the rear shocks on the 1299S and the V4s are not as good as the Ohlins aftermarket ones. And just to give you some more information that the bike companies try to save money and market high ticket items on their bikes but the parts arent as good as the actual aftermarket part are the tires. Take for example the Pirellis that come on the Ducati or any tires for that matter which come from a bike company already mounted on a bike. Go into the showroom and place a dime between the treads to measure how much tread is on that tire. Then measure the treads on that same exact tire if you bought them online or from the dealer who ordered them from Parts Unlimited or Tucker Rocky. You will see that there is more tread on those same named tires than what came originally on the bike. The bike companies tell the tire companies how much tread to put on the tires so they save money.

So what some guys do who bought the S models and figuring out that their suspension isnt as great as they were told it was (and Im not saying its not good). For the average day to day rider or the occasional track day rider that suspension is great. I dont think they would feel the difference between aftermarket Ohlins or the electronic Ohlins. But for the guys who want that extra performance upgrade with the s models. They sell their electronic suspensions to guys who may have crashed and wind up buying aftermarket Ohlins front forks and rear shock. Or whatever other brand suspension they want. Ive never sold a FGRT front end and instead of the Nix 30mm they had the FKR cartridges. Usually I will sell the FGRT forks and then after the customer asks for the FKR cartridges. Although i am assume you can order the FGRT forks with FKR cartridges. @Mick1976 and I had this conversation yesterday because of one my customers with a 1299S asked me if I can get him a Ohlins steering damper. But his steering damper is electronic. So i asked Mick whether my customer can replace his OEM one with an Ohlins one without any codes flashing on the dash. He ididnt remember and told me to tell my customer to just unplug the steering damper and see if a code flashes. But if he unplugged his suspension then a error code would pop up on his dash. Mick told me that if the suspension is unplugged and replaced with non electronic suspension. In order for no error codes to flash a company called Bike Sport Development makes bypass plugs that you plug in where your suspension plugged into and that would stop the error codes. Same way a servo buddy works when you unplug a servo motor

Not sure if I wrote an overkill response to your question. Or whether I even answered your question. When I sold Ohlins front forks to guys with S models I thought they had to either bring their bikes to the dealer to get them reprogrammed or I was sure someone out there may have made some sort of device to make sure that no codes flashed. Mick1976 gave me the name of the company yesterday. And the guys who bought suspensions from me wound up selling their front ends between $1800-$2600 which isnt bad especially after the discount I gave them on their FGRT front forks. The guys with the 1299s models had to buy different triple trees because the fork size on the base 1299 was bigger than on the 1299S. Same with the V4 models I think. I dont really remember. Either way they also wound up buying the IMA Special Parts adjustable triple trees from me.

Aren’t they the same as my old R forks?

53mm top/58mm lower clamp - 730mm long electric?

If so I have the Öhlins model number saved somewhere lemme know

@Don14R yes they are 53/58/730

@cycler thanks for the response. I asked the question so that I could possibly find the right ohlins manual for the forks. Wasn’t looking to do any upgrades at the moment. What’s different on the electronic cartridges via non electronic? I assumed it would just be the fork cap

brad8266 said:

@Don14R yes they are 53/58/730

@cycler thanks for the response. I asked the question so that I could possibly find the right ohlins manual for the forks. Wasn’t looking to do any upgrades at the moment. What’s different on the electronic cartridges via non electronic? I assumed it would just be the fork cap

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It is the fork cap, but isn't as simple as a swap as you'd think. There's kits for turning electronic forks into manual ones, but if I recall correctly it's something like 500 bucks per fork. Not worth it in the end.

MaverickiB said:

It is the fork cap, but isn't as simple as a swap as you'd think. There's kits for turning electronic forks into manual ones, but if I recall correctly it's something like 500 bucks per fork. Not worth it in the end.

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thanks, I actually like the electronic part of them so would not be looking to change that. That’s a hefty price to switch to manual.

It does the same thing as the mechanical ones. It’s a servo motor raising and lowering the needle instead of a knob. I’ll get you that number

If you are at the track or any race day walk up and down the pits look at all the bikes not just Ducs and you will notice all the serious competitors all are running non electronic suspension its for a reason. The electronic garbage is not near as adjustable.

brad8266 said:

thanks, I actually like the electronic part of them so would not be looking to change that. That’s a hefty price to switch to manual.

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Mick1976 said:

If you are at the track or any race day walk up and down the pits look at all the bikes not just Ducs and you will notice all the serious competitors all are running non electronic suspension its for a reason. The electronic garbage is not near as adjustable.

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i definitely agree with that part. The damping adjustability is lacking from end to end. Have a service on mine this week and hoping to help that some with a different weight oil, will see how it goes.

When I get my wiring harness done I’m gonna mock everything up n power up with the caps off my forks. Just to check n see how much the motor raises n lowers each. And then the tough part to try and measure how low the needle goes on the max setting

If someone actually has the 2020 sfv4s can you check the bottom of the fork leg it has the ohlins part number on it. I need that part number

2014 53/58 are FL 921

Kyles has a list of a bunch of Öhlins pn for different bikes

Alright, fork revalving made a good difference in the damping response. While at it also went a step up on the springs as well. Front end feels better now, will see how it runs on the track this weekend.

Changes I made in the post above made a huge difference at the track, it’s such a drastic difference. So much more stable during braking and in curves. The damping is well under control. I’m at like 7 clicks out on rebound, which is where you would expect it to be with fresh oil in it, this was impossible with the stock valving and oil without having way too much rebound. Everything is well planted now and I am riding quite a bit faster now due to the stability.

Right on!

Any chance you have any extra shims left over?

Nope.

Where did you get the ones you added?

The guy that did the work for me had them. He’s an ohlins service guy

brad8266 said:

The guy that did the work for me had them. He’s an ohlins service guy

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Who did the work? Contact info?