Why does the Panigale take so long to start?

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In all of the videos of the Panigale being started, it takes four to six revolutions before the engine fires. Is this typical of all modern Ducatis? My KTM RC8R, which is also a twin, will fire as soon as I hit the button.
 
My 1098S doesn't like to start right away when she sat for more than a couple of weeks while my S4RS starts instantly regardless
 
guys keep in mind, the Pani lost some weight using a smaller electric starter and smaller battery...But yeah, I've seen vids of bikes taking a few tries before turning over.

Also, as you can imagine, guys on some these vids (sure we will too) start the bikes up often just for show and not really let it run or ride it allowing the alternator to refresh the battery.

Moving them big pistons takes a lot of juice ;-)
 
It's a design feature.
Ducati do this so the owner can really appreciate when the engine does eventually fire up. It's how they invoke passion from the owners. ;)
 
guys keep in mind, the Pani lost some weight using a smaller electric starter and smaller battery...
But keep in mind, they've marketed the .... out of their cool decompression system for 'better' startup.

Starting my 848 is embarrassingly slow / long.
 
Battery 12V 6,5 AH
Starter 12V 0,6 kW

Vielen Danke.


base on personal experience, the 09 rsv4 12V12A (EMS, non APRC), but the old 99' bmw R1100s is 12V19A!(EMS +ABS)....

Wow! for the pani with all the electronics...i'm impressed.
 
My multi takes a fews turns before it starts and so does our monster. Nothing to really worry about. I seem to remember my 916 doing the same.
 
Very ducati!

Every ducati ive owned or worked on all start slow. And for those who dont leave their bikes on a charger. Im sure you remember holding your breath as you wait to hear if it will turn over each time. Lol. Big pistons and low available cca from the battery give us this fortune. I have replaced all the batterys in mine and our members with lightweight batteries from ballistic. I order the next size too big which still doesnt fill the cabin but bproduces much greater cca. Even un-pluged for weeks, bike hurries to turn over! :d
 
Every ducati ive owned or worked on all start slow. And for those who dont leave their bikes on a charger. Im sure you remember holding your breath as you wait to hear if it will turn over each time. Lol. Big pistons and low available cca from the battery give us this fortune. I have replaced all the batterys in mine and our members with lightweight batteries from ballistic. I order the next size too big which still doesnt fill the cabin but bproduces much greater cca. Even un-pluged for weeks, bike hurries to turn over! :d

Just checked these out. So, how long can I expect one to last? And which would be the right one for the 1199? The website "battery finder" gave me like 6 options, it might not be working yet for the 1199?
 
Has anyone tried using LiPO4 batteries?
They hold voltage much much better under load, which should help with cranking and they're usually 60-80% lighter. Only problem is they don't work so well in really really cold temp. ie sub zero. And nominal voltage is 13.2V (4Cell), fully charged is 14.4V
 
A delayed start also allows the oil pump to get fluids flowing to the engine internal galleries. Personnally, I have no problem with the delay.
 
Today my bike was started for the first time, with a fully-charged battery reading 13.8v.

Yes, the starting cycle was long, particularly compared to an inline-4, but its amazingly relaxed for a twin, meaning I never felt tempted to let off the starter button.
 
Arghh.. Reading the posts from bros who already got their Pani makes me feel depressed as I've not get mine yet! Lol.

Anyways congrats..

What is the size of those headlight bulb on the base? Any idea? H4? I would replace it with the HID kit. Kekekekeke.. :D
 
Today my bike was started for the first time, with a fully-charged battery reading 13.8v.

Yes, the starting cycle was long, particularly compared to an inline-4, but its amazingly relaxed for a twin, meaning I never felt tempted to let off the starter button.

side topic :

Do you need to hold the starter button or you can let go, even when is still cranking, and the controller once detected the rpm goes up to idel speed or more will turn-off the starter relay automatically?
 
side topic :

Do you need to hold the starter button or you can let go, even when is still cranking, and the controller once detected the rpm goes up to idel speed or more will turn-off the starter relay automatically?

Need to hold the button I'm afraid ..... maybe Audi can sort them out that bit of technology :p
 
yep the latter testastretta era,has it. the past 07 s4rs has such implementation and i guess a few others with the magnetic marelli's controllers.

To have such convenience (since take a while to start),instead of the solenoid side (or 85/86 terminals) of the stater relay connected in series with the starter button (like in the past ducs) , this 85 or 86 could be driven directly from the engine management ecu, which is also monitoring the rpm to know when to cut this starter relay.The cue from starter button goes direct and monitor by the ECU.if this wiring harness arrangement already existed in the pani, is just additional software work to realize.

the rsv4 also has electronics driven throttles, each time it fires-up to life, the throttles are blipped automatically.Don't see that happening to the pani.
looks like room for more software upgrade for duc engineers and japanese supplier
 
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