WSBK Changes

GK1199R · Dec 19, 2016

shakazulu12 said:

lol love the anti orangutan rhetoric!!! [emoji23]

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Twistedracer · Dec 19, 2016

jock39racer said:
Damn those first world problems...have a Merry Christmas

Hey first world problems are real too you know.

BigBoost · Dec 20, 2016

rm4two said:
I think the changes are 3 fold. Whether, it works or not is anyone's guess. But, this formula has been used with varying levels of success in other racing formats. The most successful IMO being the British Touring Car series.
1. Increase viewer entertainment value.
Watching the same three riders lead virtually every lap of every race gets old quick. By moving them back a few rows, viewers get to see more passing and a more exciting race.
2. Increase sponsorship.
Riders 4 - 9 rarely get any TV air time (at least for a last couple of years anyway). By moving them up front in race two, allows those team/rider sponsors to get a little air time for their investment which should help teams keep or attract new sponsorship.
3. More competitive championship
This change makes pulling off double win weekends a bit more challenging, which should lead to more riders being in the title fight.

I like the changes, especially for point # 1, I think this adds a new strategy for the riders and will make the races way interesting.

Should be much more entertaining for the viewers.

Macattack · Dec 20, 2016

It's like saying Usain Bolt should have to carry a bowling ball and start back 10 m in the 100m . that would be more interesting - right?

Arn't you all going to be thinking your guy got screwed out of a race two win if he has to start race two in 9th place?

who is this catering to ?

I know if Jonathan Rea Does not win the Championship because of this rule change It will always go down as a rigged series.

Put an asterisk Next to the 2017 WSBK championship winners Name please.
Lets just stop giving first place trophy's and start giving unmarked participation trophies.

just my opinion

Snk1199 · Dec 20, 2016

Will there be more points for a win in race 2 for somebody starting from row 3? At least that would be a reward... But this really sucks.

The Avidmoto · Dec 20, 2016

Could you imagine trying this in MotoGP???

Macattack · Dec 20, 2016

The Avidmoto said:
Could you imagine trying this in MotoGP???

Rossi would have started on the pole every other race in 2016

^mark I beat you to it

Twistedracer · Dec 20, 2016

Might as well reverse the order completely and have first place start in last. This is the type of stuff that killed the AMA/NASCAR bike racing in the U.S.

Racing doesn't need these feel good rules. Second place is always the first loser.

rm4two · Dec 20, 2016

The Avidmoto said:
Could you imagine trying this in MotoGP???

Yes, actually I could.

rm4two · Dec 20, 2016

Twistedracer said:
Might as well reverse the order completely and have first place start in last. This is the type of stuff that killed the AMA/NASCAR bike racing in the U.S.

Racing doesn't need these feel good rules. Second place is always the first loser.

I disagree. I don't see this as a "feel good" change but one trying to increase viewership by making racing more exciting. I haven't seen the numbers but, I'm guessing TV ratings are down as are ticket sales? Which makes obtaining and retaining sponsors increasingly more difficult. Passing is exciting, follow the leader is not. Good racing brings viewers, viewers bring sponsors and advertising, etc.
For how many races do you want to watch Davies, Sykes and Rea run 1, 2, 3? Sometimes change is good, not always but, sometimes.

centeroff · Dec 20, 2016

I think it will be great for the show, and it will play right into Chaz's hand, I want to see Ducati as WSBK world champs again. It's been too long.

Steve B · Dec 21, 2016

Also not bothered by it - similar has worked great for BTCC, which has some of the most aggressive, competitive racing there is. Hey, at least they're not implementing success ballast... yet!

centeroff · Dec 21, 2016

Macattack said:
It's like saying Usain Bolt should have to carry a bowling ball and start back 10 m in the 100m . that would be more interesting - right?

Arn't you all going to be thinking your guy got screwed out of a race two win if he has to start race two in 9th place?

who is this catering to ?

I know if Jonathan Rea Does not win the Championship because of this rule change It will always go down as a rigged series.

Put an asterisk Next to the 2017 WSBK championship winners Name please.
Lets just stop giving first place trophy's and start giving unmarked participation trophies.

just my opinion

Pill draw inverted starts are a way of life in dirt sprint car racing, sometimes I love it sometimes I hate it, but it makes for a better show, racing is a spectator entertainment show, nothing more boring than processional strung out racing. Look at F! and nascar, after the start, both series are the cure for insomnia.

Macattack · Dec 22, 2016

Pilot · Dec 22, 2016

rm4two said:
I disagree. I don't see this as a "feel good" change but one trying to increase viewership by making racing more exciting. I haven't seen the numbers but, I'm guessing TV ratings are down as are ticket sales? Which makes obtaining and retaining sponsors increasingly more difficult. Passing is exciting, follow the leader is not. Good racing brings viewers, viewers bring sponsors and advertising, etc.
For how many races do you want to watch Davies, Sykes and Rea run 1, 2, 3? Sometimes change is good, not always but, sometimes.

Passing IS exciting! I speculate there will be LESS passing near the end of race one because the risk/reward ratio has been altered. Might as well settle for that lower placing in race 1 so you can get a good grid in race two where coming across the line first isn't penalized (yet)...

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