1199 or ... 1199.

Typing the thread title I think I made my mind up.

I have a test ride booked on a 2014 1199 base model with 3k on the clock for £11,500. The 1199 is the white whale I have been hunting for a long time, but the closer I get the more I think about the 959 or the 1299.

The 959 is a non starter with that exhaust, and is £3.5k more once they are changed. The 1299 is a fair whack more cash, but this is a long time own (maybe a life long keeper?).

To all the 1199 owners out there, what is it like to live with? What common problems should I look for when I test? How well has the bike stood up to time, is the build quality what you'd expect from a top callibre Ducati? What sounds mean something bad is coming, what are the signs on a well looked after 1199? If you had the choice again would you buy it? How many of you want to change yours for a 1299 or V4?

I will be riding in the sun only, the odd commute but mainly for fun. I have great roads near me, and my baby Monster 696 for town work if needed (I love that bike).

I've been riding for 19 years, every type of bike including Fireblade etc. The power doesn't concern me, neither does the heat or agressive nature of the throttle.

Think my mind is made up (it's prettier than the 1289 for me and it's the bike that put Ducati back to the top of the tree again) but you never know.

Cheers.

i bought the 1199s in 2012 and i have not once wish i had the 1299 or the 959 or the v4. if i had to change anything it would be waiting until 2013 so as not to buy the first year model. all 1199's are good bikes but nothing against any of them, i'm so glad i got the S-model tho.

1199 is the prettiest panigale out there. If bike is unchanged it is a 2013 model. 2014 came in red and matt black. No problem living wirh a 1199. What I would change on the bike is exhaust to get rid of cats and ecu map to get it a bit less jerky in the midrange. Stock exhaust tends to leak here and there also.

What they said above; however, I am told that the 1299 is much easier to ride fast because of its increased mid-range and better feel in the front end. That said, I'm tracking my bike, still love it after 15,000 miles and I've never lacked for front-end feel. (maybe I'm not pushing it hard enough to find the limit.)
The later the model year the better when it comes to electronics, which take huge leaps forward every year. My 2012 1199S is a fabulous bike; however, compared to modern electronics, it is very outdated. You'll notice this if you are racing against bikes with more recent electronics - anti wheelie, IMU with lean-sensitive traction control, etc.

2013 1199s full termi exhaust, water pump gear showed to much wear but was changed out before it dumped teeth in the sump. 35 dollar part in 5 years, 3 hours time.

Love the bike, would not trade for anything else

Cheers all. I’m not racing, and as long as it has the same level of feel as the Desert Sled (no chicken strips in the knobblies) it’ll be fine.

Did any Panigale come with Agip stickers on? I wonder what they are hiding. I can’t get to see it until the day of the test, in the meantime I’ll keep my eyes open. May find a 1299 for a sensible price.

Corner-exit on the 1199 leaves something to be desired. Heard that was fixed with geometry changes to the 1299. But it can be helped on the 1199 by swapping parts in the triple-trees.

Besides that it's an amazing bike, other than the heat and vibration that all Panigales suffer from.

The 1299 is only £2k more than an 1199. For non track use, is it worth it?

Fingerpuk said:

The 1299 is only £2k more than an 1199. For non track use, is it worth it?

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For me it would be!

Are there specific questions you’d ask when buying a used 1199?

Fingerpuk said:

The 1299 is only £2k more than an 1199. For non track use, is it worth it?

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Even if it's just for the re-sale value later on, yes

I’ve found two bikes I’m interested in. A base ABS 1199 2013 with 3.5k on it or a 2012 1199 S with the same mileage.

I’ve head the 2013 model was more sorted? How true is this?

In terms of the 1299 I’ve seen they have a fair bit more mileage on. Closer to needed that £1,500 service. This bike will probably be a life long keeper which once not ridden will be prepared for storage and put on display. I’m not fussed about resale value.

I love my 1199 but it took a bit of sorting out regarding exhaust and fueling, now it's done I won't ever be selling it unless there was a major catastrophe. When I rode a stock 1299s it was a nice feeling bike regarding suspension and the power delivery was nice, As I said it was a stock bike and I think you could live with it out of the box.

But in saying all that you may get a .... load of enjoyment out of adding bits to a base 1199 like I have or buy one that has had the work already done by some poor sod like me
They all look the same and most parts are interchangeable between models, I also know someone who has a bone stock first addition 1199 and can't see why people make changes to them.

If I decide to get the 2012 S I’ve found the first purchase will be a new dash, this one has a small crack on it. I assume it’s a fairly easy swap?

And then Termi, and then... you know, it never ends

Fingerpuk said:

And then Termi, and then... you know, it never ends

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hahaha never ends.

Buy one that has all that gaff fitted already and not the ...... screen one.
Now is probably the best time to buy a used V2 Pani because of the good reception the V4 has had. If you take your time you'll find a cracker.

I’ll keep hunting, the next jump up is £3k more than I want to spend. But I’ll keep looking.

The 2012 1199 is an excellent bike with it's own "character". I've grown to love all the quirks about mine over the last 3 years, but nothing about it has been regretful: a rewarding track weapon and compliant street bike.

Panigaleownr85 said:

The 2012 1199 is an excellent bike with it's own "character". I've grown to love all the quirks about mine over the last 3 years, but nothing about it has been regretful: a rewarding track weapon and compliant street bike.

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What mods have you done to it?

Full Termi with upmap, 520 chain conversion, RCS 19 master & Veshra XX pads, otherwise stock