1199 rebuild

Finally making some progress on my 1199 engine rebuild.

This all started with a cracked engine casing last fall from previous owner.

I've full disassembled everything and hope to start the rebuild process once all the new parts come in and will posts some pics for those interested.

Also planning on doing some blueprinting mostly for fun but also to validate all specs and clearances along the way...

Watching your progress. I'm in Fenton, just a few miles away from you.

If you run into any snags or questions hit up Mike Castro he is the motor guy has built tons of these motors.

Seth Vo said:

Finally making some progress on my 1199 engine rebuild.

This all started with a cracked engine casing last fall from previous owner.

I've full disassembled everything and hope to start the rebuild process once all the new parts come in and will posts some pics for those interested.

Also planning on doing some blueprinting mostly for fun but also to validate all specs and clearances along the way...

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yes, please do keep us updated, very interested to watch this progress ...

Quick update but I am still ironing out a few details before putting it together. The minor challenge is my original case was a 2012 1199 and the new casing I have now is a 2016 1199R case (aka gen2 case). There are a few items I will address for this in the next few weeks and then will start assembly with measurements and pic likely in March.

For those curious differences from Gen1 to Gen 2 1199 casing are in the water pump, intermediate pully shaft, transmission gear position sensor, and the transmission oil feed tube. On the positive side plus the swingarm mounting point appears to be stronger (beefier mounting on the casing where the swingarm shaft mounts, make me wonder if this was a result of cracked casings).

excellent Seth ...

Update - still waiting for machine shop to finish the case mods and head mill so doing a few measurements & prep work before assembly....

Planning to be a mostly stock but super clean build with as close to full blueprinting as I am physically able (measurements & tolerances verified).

All new seals, rings, bearings, gaskets, new gen 2 case to replace cracked one, plus full head tear down + rebuild + mill (so as full build as you can get to having a fresh engine).

And tools of course!

Seth, I'll be very interested to understand which special tools you >really< need to get the work done ...

I'd love to do the work but I'd hate to pay for everything.

Seth, not sure if you've seen this vid on youtube:

Nice time sequence build of an 1199 engine.

bp_SFV4 said:

I'd love to do the work but I'd hate to pay for everything.

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For sure, it's certainly not economical and would be way cheaper to find a used motor. I like learning all the brilliant Italian engineering and it will be a side hobby for a long time!

DesmoAndrew said:

Seth, not sure if you've seen this vid on youtube:

Nice time sequence build of an 1199 engine.

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This is an awesome video but it will certainly take me longer then him, . I'm too busy with kids stuff but will likely put it together this fall and post plenty of pics of the process!

Finally getting some time to work in it again. Heads have been all cleaned up completely, resurfaced, mild port matching+ clean up, and starting to go back together. I was able to get all the closing arms installed with the cams to do the initial clearance check and order the right shims for finally assembly.

Now I get to wait 3 weeks till they come in to install, recheck clearances and complete the heads. Then ideally this winter I'll do the crankcase from scratch and get it all together for spring.

Finally get back to the engine rebuild and just completed the full rebuild for the heads and that included mild port clean up, matching, and measuring + adjusting all valve clearances. Starting the crankshaft rotating assembly now and will be measuring and checking all clearances again, likely not required but it will give me peace of mind to know everything is blueprinted and documented for the future.

I'll post more pics as I go and plan to dyno the engine when done after baselining the current stock motor currently in the bike as I'm curious if what I have done helps (or hurt)? I'll do this within the same bike with no other changes to give a more accurate comparison.

Side note but I was curious on 1299 specs and how the internals really compare to the 1199 so just did this last week. Pretty interesting to see what is really different or not more then just what you read online. The heads are nearly identical with minor differences, but the piston has significant changes to the dome, and the piston skirt is wider and shorter than the 1199. The crank pin journal is about 2mm wider and the crank counterweight is machined to allow room for the wider piston skirt of the 1299 piston. Interesting stuff for sure.

I have a bad spare engine that definitely needs a rebuild that i should really doing it! thanks for this thread. Could you share the parts list of all the things you decided to buy new?

@elements018 this is really going to depend on what is going on with your motor and what you need to repair but below is a general list. If you want to DM me I'm happy to help.

I would not suggest a rebuild for most as it's generally cheaper to find a used motor and swap it in due to the cost of special tools required, for the parts below it's about $1400. I plan on doing this many times in the future as I enjoy this so invested in the Ducati and all the engine blueprinting tools.

General rebuild list below for the 1199

• 79120531B Liner gasket rings (need 2 sets)
• Head gasket 78611212c (need 2 gaskets)
• Oil filter 44440312B (need 1)
• Rod bolts 77916192c (need 4 bolts total)
• Piston rings 12120561B
• O ring for oil pick up 88641331A
• Oil pick-up assembly 89420113B
• O ring clutch cover 88641761A
• Case green O ring 88641701a
• Piston pin circlip 121126041B (4)
• Con-rod bearing (need 4 shells total)
• Main bearing (need 4 shells total)
• If you strip the heads and do clearances, you'll also need the right shims, collets, and seals.

where'd you source the special tools from? A closing dealer I'd imagine.

Yes, found a guy that's had purchased all the stuff from a shop closing and bought the Ducati tools. Most were new still in packaging

That's an epic find for sure.