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I had always wondered why Ducati's ran so hot but that really makes sense. They don't run much hotter than most, but because the cylinder and header pipe are right below us we feel the heat more.

And I agree with what you are saying. I've had a Duc for the last 7 years but some of these problems get old. I finally traded my 1098 in because it would take about 5-10 minutes to start every time (no exaggeration). It just became too much.

Other than the heat and stalling twice, I haven't had any issues with my 1299. I really enjoy it and it has renewed my passion for Ducati. And I think the mirrors work great.
 
Wish I could say the same :-(

Electrical gremlins from day 1. Shop has had it for diagnostics, on and off, for over 30 days since delivery. New ECU and Speedo unit to be exchanged next week after all new wiring loom cured nothing last month.
Had loads of Ducs and had a fair few problems but they have always been rectified.
This one is starting to get me down a little.

Then I think about how ballistic it is when I get on the track and the worries disappear somewhat.
 
Wish I could say the same :-(

Electrical gremlins from day 1. Shop has had it for diagnostics, on and off, for over 30 days since delivery. New ECU and Speedo unit to be exchanged next week after all new wiring loom cured nothing last month.
Had loads of Ducs and had a fair few problems but they have always been rectified.
This one is starting to get me down a little.

Then I think about how ballistic it is when I get on the track and the worries disappear somewhat.

Shame to hear about Your bike. I do feel that the Ducati's still face more of this due to smaller production numbers and more on-hand building. There is still room for human error. Best of luck!

PS Dare to Zlatan!
 
2013 1199s purchased new

Miles / Description:

1500 / Hard Starting - Removed EVAP Canister
2320 / Replaced flopping left mirror
2800 / Rear heat shield foil slipping out
7800 / Rear rocker oil leak serviced
7800 / 7500 Service - Loose front subframe bolts.
9300 / Fuel cutting on hard launches with TC off - crunching balls - not resolved
9800 / Shift selector light goes batty - engine surging - not resolved.. What gear am I in?
10450 / Oil leak at rear rocker starts again
10800 / Rear Marchasini wheel sticker falls off
11200 / Replaced right flopping mirror
????? / At some point both of my silencer heat shield tab welds broke
14900 / Going for 15k service butt plug

Looks like the original post was meant to display what he found during his first 15k miles of ownership....to me it was nothing more than sharing....because "sharing is caring" :D

Not to be out done...here is a re-cap of 23,000 miles of a DesmoSedici D16RR ownership:

-- as it turns out....after 4 seasons, 23,000+ miles, 1 initial, 2 minor and 1 major service, along with a few trips back and forth to the shop for a few "incidentals"(1 blinker, 2 tail lights, bubble in the cooling system, new rectifier, wire harness glitches), broken shifter spring/stuck in second gear (which is better than being stuck in neutral)

- 16 sets of tires (1 set every 1500 miles)
- 1 case of oil used for topping off between rides
- 1300 gallons of fuel (approx)
- 2 ignition coils
- 8 exhaust valves
- 12 valve shims
- 3 clutches
- 1 shifter return spring
- 1 sprocket set
- 1 under tail exhaust heat shield
- 1 foot peg stabilizer bar
- 1 rear blinker
- 2 tail light units
- 1 rectifier
- 1 chain
- 1 set front rotors
- 1 set front pads

:D
 
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Not to be out done...here is a re-cap of 23,000 miles of a DesmoSedici D16RR ownership:

- 16 sets of tires (1 set every 1500 miles)
- 1 case of oil used for topping off between rides
- 1300 gallons of fuel (approx)
- 2 ignition coils
- 8 exhaust valves
- 12 valve shims
- 3 clutches
- 1 shifter return spring
- 1 sprocket set
- 1 under tail exhaust heat shield
- 1 foot peg stabilizer bar
- 1 rear blinker
- 2 tail light units
- 1 rectifier
- 1 chain
- 1 set front rotors
- 1 set front pads

:D

Heh. I could give you horror stories about the costs involved in campaigning an RS250/TZ250 for a season at club level (not counting costs involved in wadding one up in the gravel).
After having done that for a few seasons I have no complaints about the costs involved in keeping my Pani (or any Duc for that matter) running on the strreet.
 
Heh. I could give you horror stories about the costs involved in campaigning an RS250/TZ250 for a season at club level (not counting costs involved in wadding one up in the gravel).
After having done that for a few seasons I have no complaints about the costs involved in keeping my Pani (or any Duc for that matter) running on the strreet.

no complaining from me either....Street Only riding for me....for the record, i'm not blowing any horn here about costs, just putting out the facts of what was involved "campaigning" the bike for a few seasons, as most people gravitate to asking about "whats involved" -- motorcycles at this level are comparative to boats....(you know) "holes in the water you throw money in to"...but (for me at least) a lot more fun to own/use/abuse :)
 
I had always wondered why Ducati's ran so hot but that really makes sense. They don't run much hotter than most, but because the cylinder and header pipe are right below us we feel the heat more.

And I agree with what you are saying. I've had a Duc for the last 7 years but some of these problems get old. I finally traded my 1098 in because it would take about 5-10 minutes to start every time (no exaggeration). It just became too much.

Other than the heat and stalling twice, I haven't had any issues with my 1299. I really enjoy it and it has renewed my passion for Ducati. And I think the mirrors work great.

you think ducs are hot ever ride an r1 09 to 14?
 
^^^ owned a 09 and stock I would agree it was worse, but after you put the $175 y pipe on it it's night and day. Something you can do with the Ducs.
 

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