1199S with ABS or without???

wilkson said:

I love it . The ABS on the Ducati's is excellent .

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Yes it works excellent.
We were riding down our favorite mountain stretch and the lead rider on a Pani w/ABS got startled and hit the brakes hard. The guy behind him had the same equipment and was able to copy said maneuver. The guy 3rd was not so fortunate since he was on a Kawa w/o ABS and locked up the front, flipped the bike and broke several bones.

gatti man said:

He said its mainly going to be a track bike.


I will take that bet. Long run I bet resale will be almost identical.

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I had a tight arse mate who bought a MTS 1200 without ABS . Had to almost give the thing away in the end as no one wanted it .
MTS riders are unskilled though .

gatti man said:

He said its mainly going to be a track bike.

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"I plain on taking the bike to the track as much as i can and ride on the streets. Maybe even race it when the time comes"

Sounds like he's planning on doing both..

But I still stand by my comments... with ABS... it's one less thing you have to worry about.. even on the track. - No different to TC, a good rider knows how to roll on the throttle, but with TC it's one less thing to worry about.

this one "mr. modulating the brakes technique" should read -
Myths Busted: Anti-Lock Braking Systems

Motorcycle ABS

and from wiki- "A report of the European Transport Safety council showed that riding a motorcycle is 20 times more dangerous than driving a car the same distance. And the accidents situation in Germany from 1990 to 2011 showed that that total traffic fatalities decreased drastically (11 000 to 4 009) but motorcycle fatalities remained constant. [12]
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) conducted a study on the effectiveness of ABS for motorcycles and came to the conclusion that motorcycles above 250cc equipped with ABS are 37 percent less likely to be involved in fatal crashes and a study of the Swedish Road Administration came to the conclusion that 48 percent of all severe and fatal motorcycle accidents above 125cc could be avoided due to motorcycle ABS[13]
These studies caused the EU commission to initiate a legislative process in 2010 that was passed in 2012 and led to ABS for motorcycles above 125 cc becoming mandatory from 2016 onwards. Organizations like the Federation International de l’Automobile and the Institute of advanced Motorists (IAM) demanded the implementation of this legislation already for 2015.[14] On the other hand some motorcycle riders are protesting against a compulsory ABS for all bikes because they call for a possibility to switch the system off, for e.g. off road usage.[15] [16] [17] In 2011 the United Nations (UN) started the Decade of Action for Road Safety. The main goal is to safe 5 million lives until 2020 through global cooperation.[18] One part of their global plan is to: Encourage universal deployment of crash avoidance technologies with proven effectiveness such as Electronic Stability Control and Anti-Lock Braking Systems in motorcycles."