1299 engine in 1199 chassis

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I am up in the air about putting a 1299 engine in my 1199s. I always want faster and more power. I have spent a fortune on my 1199s that I will never get back if I sell it, or else I would and I’d buy a new v4s/r and start over. I’m considering a 1299 motor is I can find one with low mileage from a trustworthy source, if the two actually exist. My question(s) to those who probably know more than I do, is… is it a direct swap and pretty seamless, or are there specific challenges that will arise and what modifications if any, are necessary in this endeavor? Thank you, all.
 
I believe the exterior dims are identical between 11 & 12 ‘99 bikes. I read that somewhere. You’d need a new ecu/harness.

Couple motor on eBay. But they are all 6k usd plus. Usually they are around 2k usd. I don’t think I’d trust one with over 5k miles personally.

Good luck my man. If you need parts hit me up.
Jag
 
sometimes I see decent condition 1299 on copart, prob best way to get a donor bike for the engine, harness, and electronics.
 
I believe the exterior dims are identical between 11 & 12 ‘99 bikes. I read that somewhere. You’d need a new ecu/harness.

Couple motor on eBay. But they are all 6k usd plus. Usually they are around 2k usd. I don’t think I’d trust one with over 5k miles personally.

Good luck my man. If you need parts hit me up.
Jag

Do you have a 12’ that you’re parting out?
 
sometimes I see decent condition 1299 on copart, prob best way to get a donor bike for the engine, harness, and electronics.

I see a lot of 11’s that make their way onto copart. I recently signed up for a membership on betterbid in order to buy a v4s/r so I can start building out one of those over the next couple years. I’m divorced and have two more years of alimony so I can’t buy a new one. The 1199s that I have is likely going to be a keeper because I’ll never get my money back out of it. I just put a full six carbon subframe on it and have sunk a ton of stupid money in it, but I paid cash for the bike with low miles so if it sits, it sits. Honestly, I like working on them more than riding these days. This is my 1199, I have a tracked out 06 999s as well. I love my ducatis.
 

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It seems like every time I ride, I nearly get run off the road by some stupid ............ that is oblivious to everything beyond their windshield.
 
Also, you need a BBS that is specifically a 1299.
I don't know for sure but after swapping an 1199s into an 899 and having thoroughly studied the parts manual of the 1299 as well. It seems like this should be doable..
 
What all would I need to be able to swap the motor and it work on my 1199

There is a number of things that "can" be done but at a minimum you need the engine, rear frame brackets, and would need to update or flash the ECU. Alternatively, you can swap over the electronics but not mandatory
 
As Seth noted, the 1299 is not a direct swap. Different computer, slight difference in wiring harness, up and down shifter, and the 1199 exhaust will work but it will restrict the larger engine so go with an aftermarket exhaust if possible. One thing to note, the 1299 rod journals are wider than the 1199's, to allow wider bearings and connecting rod big ends. I've not seen an 1199 crank break at the rod journal (I'm sure it's happened, especially on race engines), but I've seen more than a few instances of the 1299's cracking or breaking. The cranks are literally the same piece except for the difference in machining and extra balance weights added to the 1299 due to the added reciprocating mass. You have of added piston and rod weight, as well as large reliefs in the crank counterweights to clear the larger pistons, and that plays hell with crankshaft life if you do a lot of high rpm running. Personally I'm suspicious of questionable harmonics with all the machining and weight redistribution in the 1299 cranks. Just be aware of it. I seldom see the high side of 10K with my 1199, so I expect the bearings to last forever.
 
my 1299 lived at 9-11.5K for many many thousands of miles before the con rod baring ate itself....
 
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