1299 Oil Filter??

Senna1Rossi · May 6, 2015

i've been told 1199, and 899 oil filters do not fit the 1299...

anyone know where to order online, please?

Macattack · May 6, 2015

I asked the dealer for a oil filter for my 1299s when I took delivery.

the filter they gave me was part number 44440312B

I am now questioning this because afaik that is the number for the 899

fzr100098 · May 6, 2015

Has anyone tried an aftermarket filter on the 1299 yet?

ecobully · May 6, 2015

I've used K&N on my 1199 without any adverse results. I hope the same holds true for the 1299.

With that said, my dealer has asked me to quit using anything but genuine Ducati because the K&N at 1/3 of the price of OEM did not flow as well as the Ducati branded product.

fzr100098 · May 6, 2015

Ha - of course the dealer is going to tell you that, and it's complete ......... In fact, the better aftermarket filters, constructed with semi-synthetic or 100% synthetic media, have been proven to filter (and flow) better than cellulose media common to "OEM" filters, based on particle count and filter paper tests. None of motorcycle manufacturers are in the filter manufacturing business, it's all rebadged stuff, with a huge mark-up. I've used Amsoil/Royal Purple, K&N/Mobil 1 filters on countless bikes, cars, and waverunners for decades and never had a single problem if the correct filter size is used.

My dealer quoted $420 for the 600 mile break in service, which is basically an oil change and fastener check - I laughed.

Chaotic · May 7, 2015

fzr100098 said:
Ha - of course the dealer is going to tell you that, and it's complete ......... In fact, the better aftermarket filters, constructed with semi-synthetic or 100% synthetic media, have been proven to filter (and flow) better than cellulose media common to "OEM" filters, based on particle count and filter paper tests. None of motorcycle manufacturers are in the filter manufacturing business, it's all rebadged stuff, with a huge mark-up. I've used Amsoil/Royal Purple, K&N/Mobil 1 filters on countless bikes, cars, and waverunners for decades and never had a single problem if the correct filter size is used.

My dealer quoted $420 for the 600 mile break in service, which is basically an oil change and fastener check - I laughed.

Agree completely.

Bwat2 · May 7, 2015

fzr100098 said:
Ha - of course the dealer is going to tell you that, and it's complete ......... In fact, the better aftermarket filters, constructed with semi-synthetic or 100% synthetic media, have been proven to filter (and flow) better than cellulose media common to "OEM" filters, based on particle count and filter paper tests. None of motorcycle manufacturers are in the filter manufacturing business, it's all rebadged stuff, with a huge mark-up. I've used Amsoil/Royal Purple, K&N/Mobil 1 filters on countless bikes, cars, and waverunners for decades and never had a single problem if the correct filter size is used.

My dealer quoted $420 for the 600 mile break in service, which is basically an oil change and fastener check - I laughed.

My quote was $360 for the first service. Highway robbery. I understand it's a little harder to change the oil on this one compared to most bikes, but it still isn't hard and should only take the average person about 30 minutes. They also said they will charge about $20 to reset the service light if I do my own oil change.

McLaren12C · May 7, 2015

Quote was $450 - but "if pay now, only $400!"

Chaotic · May 7, 2015

Bwat2 said:
They also said they will charge about $20 to reset the service light if I do my own oil change.

Phl · May 7, 2015

even though i do my own service stuff and i can reset my service light myself, i go to lunch with my mechanic today. costs $20 but gets me in priority lane and free quick fixes. dude rode his grom to florida (from Greenville, SC). classy guy.

Oil change is a PITA compared to other bikes. dealers have to cover their costs. Corporate identity required by the brands costs money, mechanics cost money.
is it worth $400? no.

if you go DYI, read up on AntiHero's How-To. Easy peasy.

slickwill · May 7, 2015

fzr100098 said:
My dealer quoted $420 for the 600 mile break in service, which is basically an oil change and fastener check - I laughed.

My dealer told me $396 plus $100 in parts for a total of $496. That was ridiculous enough that I did some calling around. Ducati Omaha said $229 total, MotoCorsa said $310 total. You can use those numbers to comparison shop.

Because of the hassle with the service light if they'd been at or below those prices I'd have done it. I'm now having them include a couple oil filters when I pick up the bike and I'll do it myself. I'm not paying $500 for an oil change. I've also ordered a K&N filter to measure against OEM and I'll also cut it open to compare internal construction. It should be here any day.

fzr100098 · May 7, 2015

Phl said:
Oil change is a PITA compared to other bikes. dealers have to cover their costs. Corporate identity required by the brands costs money, mechanics cost money. Is it worth $400? no.

if you go DYI, read up on AntiHero's How-To. Easy peasy.

Found it, thanks for the tip
http://ducati1299.com/guides/15246-how-change-oil.html

Why can't Ducati use a spin on filter like everyone else?

fzr100098 · May 7, 2015

slickwill said:
Because of the hassle with the service light if they'd been at or below those prices I'd have done it. I'm now having them include a couple oil filters when I pick up the bike and I'll do it myself. I'm not paying $500 for an oil change. I've also ordered a K&N filter to measure against OEM and I'll also cut it open to compare internal construction. It should be here any day.

Thanks - what is the K&N part #? Same as the 1199?

elements018 · May 7, 2015

Bwat2 said:
My quote was $360 for the first service. Highway robbery. I understand it's a little harder to change the oil on this one compared to most bikes, but it still isn't hard and should only take the average person about 30 minutes. They also said they will charge about $20 to reset the service light if I do my own oil change.

$20 to just reset the light sounds pretty awesome, other people are reporting dealers asking $100 to just reset the light.

Bwat2 · May 7, 2015

elements018 said:
$20 to just reset the light sounds pretty awesome, other people are reporting dealers asking $100 to just reset the light.

Yeah, I didn't think $20 was too bad, it's just the point that they are charging for a 1 minute visit. I can live with it though.

BadBoyBeltran · May 7, 2015

I read somewhere that the K&N seals do not fit well like the OEMs on the oil filters.

Who has experience with this than can verify?

Indiana Jones · May 7, 2015

My local dealer told me that I must do both the 600 mile and 15,000 services with a Ducati dealership in order to keep the warranty valid...and from the sounds of things, that doesn't appear to be the case. They said any and all other services can be done elsewhere. Please confirm I can take my bike to my mechanic, for any and all services, and keep the warranty in tact, because my local Ducati mechanic doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed and I certainly don't want to spend $450 for an oil change.

b9009b · May 7, 2015

Indiana Jones said:
My local dealer told me that I must do both the 600 mile and 15,000 services with a Ducati dealership in order to keep the warranty valid...and from the sounds of things, that doesn't appear to be the case. They said any and all other services can be done elsewhere. Please confirm I can take my bike to my mechanic, for any and all services, and keep the warranty in tact, because my local Ducati mechanic doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed and I certainly don't want to spend $450 for an oil change.

They cannot void it if you do the first service. The 15,000 mile service maybe. It involves a valve check. Maybe JarelJ can chime in here on this one.

slickwill · May 7, 2015

Indiana Jones said:
My local dealer told me that I must do both the 600 mile and 15,000 services with a Ducati dealership in order to keep the warranty valid...and from the sounds of things, that doesn't appear to be the case.

The owners manual states within the first couple of pages that they can't void your warranty for not having the dealer do the work. It encourages you to keep the receipts to prove the work was done.

Indiana Jones · May 7, 2015

Thanks, so horrible how the dealers operate...

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