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Hopefully you have the upgraded heat shield. The upgraded Termi full exhaust shield is even better, actually the best. The shield can even be touched when the bike is idle. I don't have experience with the Ducati Dealer Akro shield but the generic Akro shield is as hot as the stock shield when the bike first came out.

In general, other bikes are hotter than the Pani. My RSV4 had more unbearable heat. The Pani takes longer to heat up also compared to it. The underseat exhaust with the loop running in the inner right thigh is the culprit but it is not as bad after the shield redesign.

BadBoyBeltran said:

Hopefully you have the upgraded heat shield. The upgraded Termi full exhaust shield is even better, actually the best. The shield can even be touched when the bike is idle. I don't have experience with the Ducati Dealer Akro shield but the generic Akro shield is as hot as the stock shield when the bike first came out.

In general, other bikes are hotter than the Pani. My RSV4 had more unbearable heat. The Pani takes longer to heat up also compared to it. The underseat exhaust with the loop running in the inner right thigh is the culprit but it is not as bad after the shield redesign.

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I think we are discussing the actual engine temp not physical heat .

Nigelo said:

Since when does the 1199 engine overheat? I have seen neither seen nor read any evidence of this at all. My 2013 version gets hot when in traffic as you would expect but the fan prevents any "overheating". Once on the open road / track the airflow controls everything properly



As for the extra power of 1299 needing larger rads - BS. The 10 extra horses is developed at the top end of rev range when airflow will be substantial even in 1st gear and greatly increase with each successive gear change



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Look at the competitions, the teams replace the radiator with a bigger one and I haven't said that the bike gets overheated but that it's running too hot and that means less hp.

Err, No - Your comment "We all know the radiator was way smaller then what that engine needs" does imply overheating and is wrong. As I previously stated, all is properly controlled by the airflow other than navigating heavy traffic

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Nigelo said:

Err, No - Your comment "We all know the radiator was way smaller then what that engine needs" does imply overheating and is wrong. As I previously stated, all is properly controlled by the airflow other than navigating heavy traffic

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You live in a country that in summer is cold by world standards . If you live in a country with a hotter climate you will soon realise the radiator is inadequate .

Especially at altitude as well.

-a 170Kw race engine needs more radiator than a stock 150Kw engine. That is NOT evidence that there is anything wrong with the radiator or engine.

-that same race engine spends more time at WOT and in a draft than stock bikes.

-you actually have to be moving to complain about temp, otherwise you're just wasting our time. Get a Suzuki DRZ400x for sitting in traffic, they don't have temp gauges.

-have you verified coolant temp with a known accurate device. Not just the cheap stock sender. May just need the gauge calibrated. Doesn't matter if it's a bike, 20 cylinder diesel engine, or nuclear reactor, the tools to calibrate temp gauges are needed quite often with modern digital controllers.

-you don't get to pick majik numbers that make you happy. If the engine wants to run at 220, so be it. If nothing else is wrong, then you're just going to make the bike worse by throwing parts at it.

-if it's not puking coolant, it's not overheating

Mine runs dog cold in 90F degree weather. As long as I keep it moving. It shoots up quick at a stop light, but drops quickly enough once i'm going again. The only time I'm ever past 200 is in stop and go traffic, and can only get up to 25mph after said traffic. That's not enough air flow regardless of the size of the radiator.

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You live in a country that in summer is cold by world standards . If you live in a country with a hotter climate you will soon realise the radiator is inadequate .

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Where I live is irrelevant. Firstly, Ducatis are designed, built and tested in Italy which is far from cold. Secondly, there are no reports on this worldwide Forum of serial overheating problems. As said above, hot does NOT equal overheating

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Nigelo said:

Where I live is irrelevant. Firstly, Ducatis are designed, built and tested in Italy which is far from cold. Secondly, there are no reports on this worldwide Forum of serial overheating problems. As said above, hot does NOT equal overheating



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Let me explain better what I meant. If you use the bike on the track the average running temperature is way over it should be. All the teams swap the radiator with a bigger one. This doesn't mean the bike it overheats but still it runs over the optimal temperature. In Italy, where I was born, this is a well know issue, in the Italian forum we talked a lot about this and most of the people have installed the Febur or MacMac to fix that.

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Nigelo said:

Where I live is irrelevant. Firstly, Ducatis are designed, built and tested in Italy which is far from cold. Secondly, there are no reports on this worldwide Forum of serial overheating problems. As said above, hot does NOT equal overheating

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Ok then . I'm reporting it so now there is . I'm not talking overheating I am stating the bikes engine temps run too hot .
The funny thing is most people get all excited about a new model and extra HP the new motor is going to have only to be lost on a engine that runs too hot .