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I reckon it will be V4 based on the gp bikes . R&D is allready done and blocks , heads in production. Massive outlay building a motor compared to most other parts . GP based engine ticks 90% of the boxes we love .....power , torque , desmo, and it would sound awesome. V4 then next era will be electric , unfortunately .
 
Spill the beans TJ. We know you have some insight, even if you no longer work there! What's next in the works?
 
Calderara di Reno said:
I reckon it will be V4 based on the gp bikes . R&D is allready done and blocks , heads in production. Massive outlay building a motor compared to most other parts . GP based engine ticks 90% of the boxes we love .....power , torque , desmo, and it would sound awesome. V4 then next era will be electric , unfortunately .
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Not one part of a GP bike transitions to consumer product in the same form. I'd be more interested to know if Duc is actually using a pneumatic valve system like Honda and Aprilia.
 
The wonders of the desmodromic valve system is that it can turn the high rpms of the motogp engines without running into valve float like the spring systems. The pneumatic valves is what the other manufacturers have to run to turn the rpms without valve float that the Ducati's desmo system can turn.

Last I knew Ducati was still running the desmo valve system in MotoGP unless I missed a change while sleeping.
 
shakazulu12 said:
Yup, GP bike is still Desmo.
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I was dumb enough to question the tour guide when doing the factory tour in Bologna. She was explaining the Desmo system on everything up to the GP bikes. "I thought MotoGP all used pneumatic valves?"

Nope.
 
That's what I thought. Thanks.
For those that don't understand the desmo system, you have both opening and closing rockers. This system doesn't rely on valve springs to close the valve like a conventional system. You can spin the engine as fast as you want and not suffer from valve float like a conventional coil spring system so Ducati has no need for pneumatic valves. The only disadvantage I see to the desmo system is the engine can't be as short due to the space needed to fit the desmo system in the heads which prevents a smaller engine package.
But performance wise I think the desmo system is a winner.
 
Twistedracer said:
That's what I thought. Thanks.
For those that don't understand the desmo system, you have both opening and closing rockers. This system doesn't rely on valve springs to close the valve like a conventional system. You can spin the engine as fast as you want and not suffer from valve float like a conventional coil spring system so Ducati has no need for pneumatic valves. The only disadvantage I see to the desmo system is the engine can't be as short due to the space needed to fit the desmo system in the heads which prevents a smaller engine package.
But performance wise I think the desmo system is a winner.
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I wonder if the space issue is offset due to the rest of the field having to carry an air tank.
 
Rogue said:
I wonder if the space issue is offset due to the rest of the field having to carry an air tank.
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Not sure about that but the engine height tends to limit how they can position the engine in the frame. I figure an air tank can always be built into the frame or swingarm itself.
 
The air tank is a stand alone unit near the front of the bike. Almost looked like a little nitrous bottle. Interestingly enough, it has to be refilled every 2-3 practice sessions.
 
Rogue said:
The air tank is a stand alone unit near the front of the bike. Almost looked like a little nitrous bottle. Interestingly enough, it has to be refilled every 2-3 practice sessions.
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Thanks didn't know where they put them. Wonder if the rules require it that way.
 

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