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Kope is correct, Dorna has already announced new SBK rules that will "dumb down" current SBK spec to be closer to OEM street bike spec. Ducati's brand is absolutely tied to racetrack success so they will do as they have always done and create homologation specials (remember the 888SP, 996R, 1098R, 1198R?) to include every necessary feature to ensure racetrack competitiveness and success.
Regarding price, the 1199R is the least expensive homologation special that Ducati has ever produced. Racetrack success is vital to sales for Ducati, so having a homologation special cost $50,000 (but can win) or more is a trivial concern. They had no problem selling the required number of 1198R's for eligibility in the 2011 racing season (or any special before that), and it will be no problem in the future, irrespective of price (let's say less than $75,000).
I still bet they won't adhere to a twin-cylinder formula. They were able to stay competitive when (Italians) Flammini Group were running SBK as rule breaks tended to fall in their favor, but now with Dorna - a Spanish organization - owning SBK, and being very partial to the Japanese (especially Honda), it is doubtful that the "leveling rules" will ever favor a big twin again. I'll put a gentleman's bet of $1 that by 2016 we will see some type of more-than-2-cylinder Ducati superbike, likely a V4, but who knows what crazy stuff Domenicali will authorize.
Regarding price, the 1199R is the least expensive homologation special that Ducati has ever produced. Racetrack success is vital to sales for Ducati, so having a homologation special cost $50,000 (but can win) or more is a trivial concern. They had no problem selling the required number of 1198R's for eligibility in the 2011 racing season (or any special before that), and it will be no problem in the future, irrespective of price (let's say less than $75,000).
I still bet they won't adhere to a twin-cylinder formula. They were able to stay competitive when (Italians) Flammini Group were running SBK as rule breaks tended to fall in their favor, but now with Dorna - a Spanish organization - owning SBK, and being very partial to the Japanese (especially Honda), it is doubtful that the "leveling rules" will ever favor a big twin again. I'll put a gentleman's bet of $1 that by 2016 we will see some type of more-than-2-cylinder Ducati superbike, likely a V4, but who knows what crazy stuff Domenicali will authorize.
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Assuming there will be leftovers
Exactly.
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Good point and I believe you probably guessed right.
But for me, I don't think I want to pay 40-75k. Lol. Maybe I can win a lotto.
It would be interesting with V4 and I see it coming too.
You and me both! With kids and normal life's expenses, I wish I could afford an R now. And I don't even need the full lotto, just a 5 out of 6 numbers is good enough for me
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So if that's the case, you think Japanese company will follow Ducati build their own for the new rule?
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A lot is happening .. Aprilia is going gp as cutting back on tech in wsbk would kill their effort as their bikes are furthest away from all sbk stock bikes. They re making good progress in crt. And they have decades of gp winning experience .. Honda and yamaha have not been competitive in wsbk for a while now but the honda motogp rep could become homologation bike if sold at good prices . Bringing a sort of honda gp bike to wsbk .. And there are new cbr s and R1 s in the making .. If ducati ever want to win a wsbk again, they better focus and get their act together .. So , interesting times ahead ..
They will have no choice but to do so. Good times coming to be a sport bike enthusiast! (well, a rich one anyway)
And there are new cbr s and R1 s in the making .. If ducati ever want to win a wsbk again, they better focus and get their act together .. So , interesting times ahead ..
Bingo! Honda is the biggest moto company and they haven't won the SBK Championship in a while. Yamaha took off the last 2 years from SBK racing and the new triple-cylinder R1 should bow in October with the new CBR.
Ducati has Audi money now and the Germans have dominated sports car/prototype racing for years, and expect the same. They've already fired Preziosi, and will soon trash the equipment he left behind in MotoGP. Their SBK effort is a trickle-down from the MotoGP effort and will similarly be trashed by 2016. Huge changes coming up for sure. Whether they work or not, now that is up for debate.
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