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It's whooping ass in FIM Superstock. I think all the major players make a great bike right now.

Agree the bikes on offer now for the price point are amazing, but a WSBK bike an our bikes are totally different even In superstock form.
 
ha, like i said Chris it's only my opinion and if i'm buying a new bike (which i am) it won't be the Aprilia.

And there's nothing wrong with that, as stated in an earlier post, I had this decision to make a few weeks ago to satisfy my need for a new bike.

I had three bikes on my short list, the RSV4R RF, the 1299S, and the S1000RR, in that order.

I eventually chose the 1299S, no regrets on my part, even though it's placing third in most of the magazines rankings...
 
I have talked about it before. The RSV4 is very, very heavy. And all of the weight is in the motor and chassis, so even in race trim it is still really heavy. My RSV4 in full race trim with loads of Titanium, lightweight battery, so on and so forth...is much heavier than my 2006 R1 in full street trim (headlights and all).

The RF has more power than the previous generations, but they didn't do anything to help the weight. And they didn't do anything to fix the power delivery. This RF is one of those "mid-generation" updates to try and make a bike more relevant, without actually doing a ground-up redesign (similar to the CBR1000RR SP).

Unlike other bikes where both injectors spray all the time, on the RSV4 at about 7.5k RPM the Lowers stop and the Uppers start (for example, on the R6 the lowers continue to spray even when the Uppers start, so there is no cut in power). On the RSV4, there is a drastic cut when the injectors swap. You can feel the transition and it happens as you are leaned over, trying to power out of the corner.

It is so bad that it messes up my line on exit. I get on the gas hard enough to let the throttle carry me to the edge and use all the track. Then the power dips and it throws me offline.

It can be remedied by something like a Motec or Magnetti unit that will allow you to alter the software and control the injectors individually. Or you have to throw crazy gearing on it to try and stay above 7.5k RPM all the time (which is what we had to do at the Grand Nationals last year).
 
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It's a damn v twin... Turned on its side. It's cool to call it an L twin. Regardless of preference, saying v twin isn't wrong.
 
I have to disagree. I am 6'2", 215lbs (I am not fat, I carry single digit bodyfat %. I just like to lift weights a lot). And I get along just fine on the RSV4.

I actually find the RSV4 ergos very nice. Much better than the Panigale in all honesty.

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That's really interesting because I'm 6ft with shoes on and the cockpit is so short I feel borderline too big for it. Maybe the seat effects it and in race trim you can sit further back with a thinner seat so it doesn't become an issue?
 
I have the OEM seat.

But I do scoot my butt back and on some longer straights I actually sit on the tail section to get in a better tuck (but I do that on every bike).
 
Unlike other bikes where both injectors spray all the time, on the RSV4 at about 7.5k RPM the Lowers stop and the Uppers start (for example, on the R6 the lowers continue to spray even when the Uppers start, so there is no cut in power). On the RSV4, there is a drastic cut when the injectors swap. You can feel the transition and it happens as you are leaned over, trying to power out of the corner.

It is so bad that it messes up my line on exit. I get on the gas hard enough to let the throttle carry me to the edge and use all the track. Then the power dips and it throws me offline.

It can be remedied by something like a Motec or Magnetti unit that will allow you to alter the software and control the injectors individually. Or you have to throw crazy gearing on it to try and stay above 7.5k RPM all the time (which is what we had to do at the Grand Nationals last year).

That interesting reading. Do you think this is actually happening in this article when he's referring to traction control on the corner exit (near the end of the article).

2016 Aprilia RSV4 RF Sportbike FIRST RIDE Motorcycle Review- Photos- Specs: The little brand with a huge resume builds its next contender.
 
Referring to this...

As far as the new electronics go, the only real problem I noticed was the way the eight-position traction control reacted to the loss of grip. It would cut the power ever so slightly causing the bike to stutter exiting the corners

It is HIGHLY possible.

When the injectors swap, the power cuts (and if you don't know better or pay attention to the dash, it feels like TC kicking in too strong).

It is very, very aggravating. It would either upset the chassis or mess up my line on corner exit.

The entire GNF looked like this (with Livengood making fueling adjustments trying to compensate for the ...... injector setup). He was either doing this in the Pit or I would come in 2-3 times during Practice session so he could make an adjustment and I would try it again.

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It sucks. Huge turn-off. It was actually a major reason why I decided to go with the Panigale.
 
It sucks. Huge turn-off. It was actually a major reason why I decided to go with the Panigale.

He flat out said the only fix was Motech, Marelli, APX2 etc as well. They dropped the price on the APX system big time with the rule changes in the various series, but I have to believe it's not the easiest bike to tune since nobody really has experience with that setup. Very curious decision on Aprilia's part.
 
And it is sad because the power delivery of that V4 motor is incredible. It is so smooth, so easy to control, so much mechanical grip...phenominal...except for that .........
 
Chaotic, do you think they would have that sorted out on the 16? I'm looking at one pretty hard but cutting out you're talking about wouldn't be acceptable.

I highly, highly doubt it unless they completely redesigned the electronics/injector setup/etc. Which im sure they didnt do.
 
it's still heavy and not as powerful as the competition, still a great bike but the competition has moved on IMO.

How has the competition moved on? The 2016 RSV4 is a revised bike making just as much power as anyone else and handling better than most if the reports are to be believed.
 

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