2016 Panigale 1299, Should I Pull the Trigger or Pass on This One?

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PerfectGnome said:

One of us, one of us!

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Yessir, a Ducatisti now, this bike rocks!

Quick question, how much hassle is it to remove the rear passenger foot peg brackets? I'm seeing about six bolts in total, are they threaded into nut plates or do you need access from inside?

Thanks!

John

easy, just undo them

Me likee but all was not perfect, the battery died when I got it home so I had to run to the Ducati dealer for a new one and the fuel in the tank was crap (about 6 months old) so it didn't want to fire right up but I've run three tanks of fresh gas through her now and she is purring like a kitten!

Owner told me the front and rear Pirelli Super Corsa SP tires were new, which they certainly looked the part; but on further examination when I got home found the date codes were 2020 for the rear tire and 2016 on the front tire, so he fibbed a bit, caveat emptor!

These are fine for initial runs but I will need at least a new front tire pronto, it's as hard as a brick, back is still soft and grips OK.

Have put 106 back road miles on her and she handles well but will need some suspension tuning once I get some fresh rubber on there.

The 1299 is very fast but not overwhelming like my tuned '21 RSV4, so is much more friendly and easy to ride quickly.

Once I get some good rubber on there and get the suspension setup dialed in I'll feel more comfortable exploring the limits.

For now, the verdict is a very nice and well behaved machine.

John

I had to buy a new battery for mine too. It was embarrassing and one of the reasons my wife didn't like the bike initially. It was the next day after I had gotten back from the dealer. I went to start it to show a friend. Just a click and nothing I have had to replace the battery twice. Now though I plug it in if im not using it for a couple days. That has helped.
Mine came with the supercorsas. Do you plan on buying new ones or changing to something else?

I'll run either Super Corsas or my favorite Bridgestone RS-11s, they are supertacky, U profiled rather than a V, which yields predictable handling on the back roads with less than perfect surface and the only real negative is a relative short life. 800 -1000 miles out of a rear, 1500-1700 out of a front.

Bottom line is I am really enjoying this machine, already a favorite and I haven't even started setting it up yet!

John

Have you ever run diablo rosso 4s on your motorcycles? How do they compare to the rs-11s?

The Rosso series have a rounded profile which some prefer and the plain 4's have all the grip most average riders need in mixed conditions, they are a sports touring tire with more emphasis on touring. Rosso Corsas are a step up and are more sporting, less wet grip and are ok for intermediate level track days if you like the feel. In general it's best to stick with Pirellis on the xx99's because the tire design philosophy is an important part of the suspension. You can run whatever you like, but the best tires for the 1299 are Supercorsas. I would use 200/60's as well to help with turning.

PerfectGnome said:

Have you ever run diablo rosso 4s on your motorcycles? How do they compare to the rs-11s?

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I have Rosso 4s on my '24 RS660, a good OEM tire but way less ultimate grip than an RS-11 when ridden at the limit. They are biased towards road but will work OK on track, RS11 is a track tire first and foremost and has a very short fuse on the big bikes but will not move around much even with the massive torque of a 227 HP RSV4 punishing it. I don't get the feed back out of the Rosso 4s when really loading them up in a corner but they work fine on the RS660 due to lightweight and 100HP. I got a feeling the RS660 will be epic on RS11s or Pirelli SC V4s.

John

"The Rosso series have a rounded profile which some prefer and the plain 4's have all the grip most average riders need in mixed conditions, they are a sports touring tire with more emphasis on touring. Rosso Corsas are a step up and are more sporting, less wet grip and are ok for intermediate level track days if you like the feel. In general it's best to stick with Pirellis on the xx99's because the tire design philosophy is an important part of the suspension. You can run whatever you like, but the best tires for the 1299 are Supercorsas. I would use 200/60's as well to help with turning."

Nothing I can add here....

John

I love this 1299, angel with a dirty face, I need to do a head to head comparo with the BMW S1000RR and RSV4, I think it would spank the Aprilia and challenge the S1000RR. The1299 is super easy to ride fast, I have only 144 miles on it and like the BMW, instantly felt at home on it. 1100 RSV4s are expert's machines, bloody fast but need a steady hand to reign in their overwhelming power and acceleration, 3 years on I'm still trying to tame mine.

John

The lovely Mckinley posing with my new 1299 Ducati....

Paul G said:

easy, just undo them

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Thanks Paul but you didn't really answer my question, are there hidden nuts inside or do the bolts screw into the subframe?

John

Kruz said:

Thanks Paul but you didn't really answer my question, are there hidden nuts inside or do the bolts screw into the subframe?

John

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@Paul G was spot on. No hidden nuts, just unscrew them.

bp_SFV4 said:

@Paul G was spot on. No hidden nuts, just unscrew them.

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bp_SFV4 have you actually done the rear passenger peg removal before on a 1299 and are speaking from experience?

Based on comments, I thought this was going to be a simple task of taking four bolts out and removing the pegs, one beer job and done.

All six bolts are now out, four 6mm and two 5 mm that hold the two peg halves together and the footpegs will not release, they are trapped by the bushings built in to the heat shield. I don't know how long the bushings are and may now have to either take the subframe loose or drop the exhaust to gain enough clearance to pull the pegs off the bushings.

It is now also painfully apparent that the front two 6mm bolts also serve to fix the heat shield to the subframe, so some kind of special spacers are going to be needed or my heat shield is going to be flopping all over the place.

I am new to the 1299 and to this forum and would appreciate accurate information not guess work presented as fact.

If you have never done a task before please state that up front rather than acting like an authority.

I have been through this with my 959 Panigale, nothing is easy on a Ducati and that is why I asked up front if there are special instructions to a seemingly easy task.

I was hoping to get the pegs off and go for a ride, now my afternoon is shot and I don't know when this bike will be rideable again, it may take weeks to get the necessary spacers from Ducati based on past experience ordering parts.


John






I am a little bit pissed off right now but will calm down.

John

I found a Youtube video, the fuel tank and subframe have to come off to get enough clearance to get the footpegs past the bushing, bushing depth is too great to use a screwdriver to exert pressure and slip it past, the exhaust is not moving and the subframe is not budging either.

I'm putting the passenger pegs back on, thanks folks for your accurate information, sarcasm noted...

Pissed off In Dallas

Kruz said:

bp_SFV4 have you actually done the rear passenger peg removal before on a 1299 and are speaking from experience?

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2014 1199.

I was replying to your question about there being hidden nuts or if the bolts threaded directly into the subframe.

I wouldn't order OEM Ducati spacers.

Kruz said:

Going to take my new 1299 out for a first ride this morning, you can follow me on this thread on ZX-14 Ninja forums:

My Sportbike Ratings Preference Part II

Fingers crossed I will really like this machine!

John

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I have a ton of parts for your bike man. Let me know if you need anything.