2025 Ducati Panigale V4 with Akrapovic Full Racing Exhaust

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So my bike is all fitted with the full Akra system but I have not found time yet to tune it. From the data collected with the Ducati Performance map I am estimating about 215hp at the wheel after retune.

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It will be interesting to see if you can see the cam lift changes in the midrange. Other than the cams and exhaust there seems to be no other significant changes so all things being equal the torque should improve some. I seem to remember you posted an earlier one over 220 (but my memory is a thing of the past)? If I can make a request, could you post your results with what you consider a representative example of an earlier ones. Thanks.
 
Hello guys I have one in stock now full system ready to ship , only for the forum from 8300$ down to 8000$ thanks
 
Not a fan of the pipe. Looks too much like the GP pipe and I think GP bikes just ugly.
 
Not a fan of the front end "Catfish" look, or the CBR-esque fairings. Seems as if the bike was dipped into a vat of character dissolving fluid. Each to their own. As for the £75,000 Bagnaia "special" and the £48,000 Tricolore...Hmmm. Ducati will doubtless sell them all but they churn them out so often the word "special" is a bit of a mis-noma these days. Christ you don't even get a carbon front mudguard on the "mere-mortal" S model, as was once the norm on previous iterations. It's all structured to appeal to the most affluent buyer, many of whom won't even start the bike let alone ride it, destined to gather dust in some collection, until it surfaces on the market again in a few years, with gummed up fuel lines, cracked and deteriorated rubber and hardened oil seals. Still Ducati won't care at that point, as by then they will have already released another batch of parts bin limited editions. Back in the day when the SPS was the bike to have amongst model variants, you actually got something that was tangiabally good value for money. Now it is whatever Bologna think you are willing to pay.
 
Not a fan of the front end "Catfish" look, or the CBR-esque fairings. Seems as if the bike was dipped into a vat of character dissolving fluid. Each to their own. As for the £75,000 Bagnaia "special" and the £48,000 Tricolore...Hmmm. Ducati will doubtless sell them all but they churn them out so often the word "special" is a bit of a mis-noma these days. Christ you don't even get a carbon front mudguard on the "mere-mortal" S model, as was once the norm on previous iterations. It's all structured to appeal to the most affluent buyer, many of whom won't even start the bike let alone ride it, destined to gather dust in some collection, until it surfaces on the market again in a few years, with gummed up fuel lines, cracked and deteriorated rubber and hardened oil seals. Still Ducati won't care at that point, as by then they will have already released another batch of parts bin limited editions. Back in the day when the SPS was the bike to have amongst model variants, you actually got something that was tangiabally good value for money. Now it is whatever Bologna think you are willing to pay.
I agree with all above except for the condition of the motorcycles after they sit. Several friends and myself only buy 2nd hand poseur specials (typically with all the good stuff, rearsets, full exhaust systems etc.) and surprisingly they never need much. Even after 10 plus years of sitting (belt drive desmoquattro's and testaretta's mostly now). Change the fluids and tires and away you go pretty much. In the US you have to check to see if it was parked with a tank of E10 (the crap we are forced to use in a lot of the US to help subsidize corporate corn farming) which turns into a yellow cake like mess. If they're parked with gas normally OK. The greed that Ducati is currently exhibiting will undo them ultimately if they aren't legislated out of existence first.
 
So finally I got around to put the bike on the dyno and work on the ECU mapping. The base run with the official Ducati Performance Akra map was already quite good at 223 clutch hp. With some cylinder individual tweaking I found some usable performance gains in the upper rpm regions which resulted in new peak clutch hp of almost 229.
Ducati specifies 228 hp and 128 Nm for this setup so all seems in line.....
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So finally I got around to put the bike on the dyno and work on the ECU mapping. The base run with the official Ducati Performance Akra map was already quite good at 223 clutch hp. With some cylinder individual tweaking I found some usable performance gains in the upper rpm regions which resulted in new peak clutch hp of almost 229.
Ducati specifies 228 hp and 128 Nm for this setup so all seems in line.....
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Awesome work here as always Dan!

Question for you . when you say clutch HP , are you just using Dynojet calculations to obtain that number ? Typically , as always getting wheel HP numbers on a dyno , I’ve never really saw the clutch HP values . Curious about why you use it over wheel HP .

Aside from that , how do you feel the 25’ stacks up against the 22-24’ models ?
 
Awesome work here as always Dan!

Question for you . when you say clutch HP , are you just using Dynojet calculations to obtain that number ? Typically , as always getting wheel HP numbers on a dyno , I’ve never really saw the clutch HP values . Curious about why you use it over wheel HP .

Aside from that , how do you feel the 25’ stacks up against the 22-24’ models ?
Clutch hp is not just calculated but drivetrain losses from wheel to clutch are actually measured by the dyno. Typical loss value for a Pani V4 is between 10 and 12 hp. In this case the loss is 11hp so about 218 at the wheel. The 2025 Pani V4 has new camshafts that sacrifice some mid range torque but focus on raising power at higher rpm. So really again more racing oriented.
 
Clutch hp is not just calculated but drivetrain losses from wheel to clutch are actually measured by the dyno. Typical loss value for a Pani V4 is between 10 and 12 hp. In this case the loss is 11hp so about 218 at the wheel. The 2025 Pani V4 has new camshafts that sacrifice some mid range torque but focus on raising power at higher rpm. So really again more racing oriented.

That’s what I figured most all dyno charts show the total number w/ values of drivetrain loss as well , also would be cool to see your best 22-24 v4s dyno numbers overlaying the 2025 dyno numbers on one chart to see where the new engine vs previous gen peaks in both HP and TQ
 

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