Advice?

Trying to figure out where the power loss may be coming from on my bike. Gonna take it to the dealer, but I know I have a valve cover gasket leaking, a small coolant leak just behind the fuse boxes on a pipe somewhere, chain is loose enough it hits the cans easy, and temps climb quick past 100 mph, also top out speed is only 174 and I weigh 130 lbs. Any ideas on which may be the culprit or anything else I should look at? I might try to take a look at the airbox too.

I hope its pass 100f. Dude adjust your chain. None of these things you mention will reduce power, but it sounds like your bike is in disrepair. You should think about a good life insurance policy for your loved ones.

doctorj said:

I hope its pass 100f. Dude adjust your chain. None of these things you mention will reduce power, but it sounds like your bike is in disrepair. You should think about a good life insurance policy for your loved ones.

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I meant to say "temps climb quick past 100 mph" lol I gotta go edit that. But something is causing a loss in power for sure. Ever since I got it back from the fire it hasn't been performing the same. Not sure why. All I know is... this sucks.

So the valve cover gasket leak wont cause a loss of power?

elitesoldier357 said:

So the valve cover gasket leak wont cause a loss of power?

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Theres no compression there. Also, are you one of the guys that did the thrash it run in procedure.

You could now be paying for that. There are just too many variables that could cause a loss of power. If you have lost coolant and the volume is down that will cause your temp to rise. Overheating will cause a loss of power.

doctorj said:

I hope its pass 100f. Dude adjust your chain. None of these things you mention will reduce power, but it sounds like your bike is in disrepair. You should think about a good life insurance policy for your loved ones.

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LOL - thats rough But fully agree maintenance is key with these bikes

bradp51 said:

Theres no compression there. Also, are you one of the guys that did the thrash it run in procedure.

You could now be paying for that. There are just too many variables that could cause a loss of power. If you have lost coolant and the volume is down that will cause your temp to rise. Overheating will cause a loss of power.

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Thrash it run procedure? You referring to break in?

Either way, it is slightly down on power since I got it back from the fire. A lot of variables happen in a fire too that can't be accounted for. Thing ran like a raped ape before, and now it doesn't.

elitesoldier357 said:

Thrash it run procedure? You referring to break in?

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yeah - break in - run in - same thing.

i do recall reading your post regarding the fire on the lower right pipe. Perhaps some wiring may have been affected, Oxygen sensor, Exhaust Valve control, rear wheel speed sensor. I have no clue. I would harass the dealer until they make things right.

Or another option, may take a hit financially, but trade the bike back to the dealer for another if they claim there's nothing wrong. They should give you full market value.

Say used 1199 goes for $16999 and $17999 new, toss them $1k and see if they'll bite. Peace of mind for the long haul.

I agree with bradp51 if its running hotter than normal then that will definitely rob you of power. If I get my temp up to 95-100 deg C around town I start worrying,as soon as I get rolling good, 120mph sees the temp down to a normal 75degs ish,depending on ambient of course. That tells me my radiator is doing its job properly. The bike is too new to have a blocked radiator,so yeah,low water is first look. Get that thing singing again,your missing out and you could end up damaging the engine badly,if it gets too hot. How does wrecked pistons sound? which in turn will destroy your cylinders. They are integral to the cranckcases with Nikasil coating once thats gone your gonna need new cranckcases unless a specialist can reclaim them. Get on it man or you will be sorry. BTW are you Dani Pedrosas brother? lol, 130lb? man you must get blown all over the show in a sidewind. Take care kiddo.

Well a turn for the worst happened today and Ive been bugging my dealer to help me find my power problem. I took the fairings off to take pics of the issues I've been having, put it all back together, started it up, let it warm up. Went to roll out of first and it misses multiple times as if the DTC is kicking in, which its not. I noticed this a little while ago it would miss once or twice at the most out of first gear rolling on, now its just all sorts of jacked up. I revved it and it won't rev past 4 or 5 rpm. It sluggish/missing when it does. It sounds like my compression is shot. I think I have had enough patience with this bike and its problems, it ran hard and strong from 0-2000 miles when the fire happened, and now all the problems stated above, and this rather large issue again. I'm done with this bike, I'm taking it back and I don't wanna see that one again. I've been patient enough. Now my engine is jacked and wont smooth out at all, when u give it throttle it just misses over and over, so now I have another catastrophic engine failure. Plus I never got my towing bill refunded for the last incident which was $165, even though I took the proper steps to get my refund, but I never got a response when I emailed the customer service guy. So not only do I have problems with the bike with power, leaks, and engine failure... but the message I am getting is that I have to pay out of pocket for DUCATI'S mistakes. I'm droppin the ....... off, and I don't want it back. New bike, or refund are the only options.

I understand what you are saying about getting whatever trade in value I can from this bike to get another. But I shouldn't have to pay a dime for their mistakes and for a new bike just because this one isn't running right. I should've let it burn to the ground the first time around. Cause it ran strong and hard and I was more than impressed with the bike before the fire, and now I got a lemon back. None of what I say is directed at any of you but I've really reached the limit of my patience with Ducati.

Michigan Lemon Law does not cover motorcycles. However, the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that the manufacturer of any product — from your toaster to your lemon motorcycle — must abide by the warranty.

Hire a Lawyer. Immediately.

Too many variables to consider regarding sources of your compression issues. One has to turn the clock back to your earliest posts regarding your thrashing the poor bike and racing anything and everything WAY before the recommend break in period was over.

Sure there are as many ways to run these in as there are owners of them, but the owners manual stated clearly how they wanted these oversized positions seated via the recommended break in.

Sorry, but IMHO, you really only have yourself to blame for the myriad issues you have had with your bike. Chalk it up to not heeding the advice of the company. If you wanted a drag bike, you should have built one.

Stop looking for other reasons to continuously obscure the results of your impetuous behavior.

RSR racer said:

Too many variables to consider regarding sources of your compression issues. One has to turn the clock back to your earliest posts regarding your thrashing the poor bike and racing anything and everything WAY before the recommend break in period was over.

Sure there are as many ways to run these in as there are owners of them, but the owners manual stated clearly how they wanted these oversized positions seated via the recommended break in.

Sorry, but IMHO, you really only have yourself to blame for the myriad issues you have had with your bike. Chalk it up to not heeding the advice of the company. If you wanted a drag bike, you should have built one.

Stop looking for other reasons to continuously obscure the results of your impetuous behavior.

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Took the words right out of my mouth (or post) Doc.

I recently had a Ducati Factory trained tech tell me that as far as he is concerned there are good reasons to follow the running in procedure set by the manufacturer.

Elite may find that there are other reasons his bike is running poorly and it may easily be fixed. I would not give up on the bike yet.

RSR racer said:

Too many variables to consider regarding sources of your compression issues. One has to turn the clock back to your earliest posts regarding your thrashing the poor bike and racing anything and everything WAY before the recommend break in period was over.

Sure there are as many ways to run these in as there are owners of them, but the owners manual stated clearly how they wanted these oversized positions seated via the recommended break in.

Sorry, but IMHO, you really only have yourself to blame for the myriad issues you have had with your bike. Chalk it up to not heeding the advice of the company. If you wanted a drag bike, you should have built one.

Stop looking for other reasons to continuously obscure the results of your impetuous behavior.

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First off, im gonna try to keep my cool this time around, but do your research. So read this and watch the video:

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power
Ducati 1199 Panigale S 2012 Dyno Run in & Hp stats by Maxpower Motorcycles 193HP - YouTube

Modern day break-ins are not the same as old bikes. There have been countless videos and articles proving that a harder break in is recommended over what they tell you in the owners manual. Main reason being, the piston rings need more pressure to to actually wear in properly. How do you get more wear? More compression. And FYI, I rode mine in wet mode, constantly changing gears down the highway for about 100 miles, then I put it into sport the next day and went up to about 8,000 rpm max and constantly changed gears, did this up to 400 miles... then rode it like I stole it. Never had a single problem up til after 2,000 miles when my spark plug wire severed, then the fuel dumped into the charcoal canister causing the fire. The point is to not run it in too hard, nor too easy. Seriously, read both of those articles.

Now, in the dyno they broke it in for 200km (equal to 124 miles). They also state in their top comments that they did not lie in the dyno results, assuming that they are talking about their correction factors. He even states that this day in age for a modern bike the manual recommendations are a bit ridiculous. Granted mine may not be perfect, but it certainly had far more hp before than when I got it back after they had fixed it. You can either be a man about this and admit you were wrong, or try and prove me wrong. So what's it gonna be? I can go on detail for detail about how to properly break in an engine, but both the article and the video should be sufficient enough to prove my point. If you do more research, you'll find more topics expressing the same idea I assure you. Also using big words such as "Impetuous" doesn't make you seem smarter/more of a man when you troll on other peoples posts, mainly because you can't back any of your assumptions up. Have a nice day!

AntiHero said:

Michigan Lemon Law does not cover motorcycles. However, the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act states that the manufacturer of any product "” from your toaster to your lemon motorcycle "” must abide by the warranty.

Hire a Lawyer. Immediately.

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Also, thanks for the HELPFUL advice Antihero (No sarcasm). That's the kind I was looking for, not some troll like the other guy up there.

Elite...and I use that work loosely...please dont resort to calling someone a troll for giving an opinion. You have become the troll of your own posts with your arrogant total disregard from the manufacturers recommended run in process. It was ansnstill is clearly stated how to do this.

It does not matter who you have researched or have spoken to. THIS bike had a recommended process to follow. You chose not to. Thus, any and all complications are your fault and yours alone.

You're coming off as a petulant little 130 pound bitch who cannot find any fault with your own actions. Your narcissistic tendencies are becoming more prevalent and are diluting the entire thread. I find it rather amusing, yet annoying, personally.

We are pretty tired as a group, I am sure, of hearing your rants against the company and you blaming them for your broken toy.

YOU Broke your toy. Now be a good boy and go and read all of your posts blaming everyone and everything but yourself and own up to it and then solve the problem. Mommy and daddy aren't going to hold you hand and say, "there, there" little soldier; everything will be all right".

Stop whining already. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR BIKE.

'Nuff said. Anything you have as a retort will only further illustrate and substantiate the above observations.

So many great lines in this thread... I would like to list my top 5.

#5 "It is slightly down on power since I got it back from the fire"

#4 "Elite... and I use that word loosely"

#3 "Top out speed is only 174"

#2 "Stop looking for other reasons to continuously obscure the results of your impetuous behavior"

And the number 1 line of this thread....

#1 "You are coming off as a petulant little 130lb bitch"

RSR racer said:

Elite...and I use that work loosely...please dont resort to calling someone a troll for giving an opinion. You have become the troll of your own posts with your arrogant total disregard from the manufacturers recommended run in process. It was ansnstill is clearly stated how to do this.

It does not matter who you have researched or have spoken to. THIS bike had a recommended process to follow. You chose not to. Thus, any and all complications are your fault and yours alone.

You're coming off as a petulant little 130 pound bitch who cannot find any fault with your own actions. Your narcissistic tendencies are becoming more prevalent and are diluting the entire thread. I find it rather amusing, yet annoying, personally.

We are pretty tired as a group, I am sure, of hearing your rants against the company and you blaming them for your broken toy.

YOU Broke your toy. Now be a good boy and go and read all of your posts blaming everyone and everything but yourself and own up to it and then solve the problem. Mommy and daddy aren't going to hold you hand and say, "there, there" little soldier; everything will be all right".

Stop whining already. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR BIKE.

'Nuff said. Anything you have as a retort will only further illustrate and substantiate the above observations.

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So you're telling me the manufacturers error that caused my spark lug wire to be severed and catch fire was "my fault?" And just because some of us ride our bikes hard doesn't make us wrong. I can't help the faults with my engine. It isn't me who is breaking the bike. Are you just that ignorant that you assume it's always the riders fault? Just cause I don't baby the power in my bike like you doesn't make me wrong, cause guess what... IM NOT YOU!!! If the bike can't take being ridden hard than oh well, that's Ducati's problem, not mine. I check my bike over every couple of weeks and report every small detail to my dealer for them to fix. So call me all the names you want, I don't care. All I'm doing is reporting the issues on here to figure out if other people have them too, and to get some wise advice, which obviously isn't coming from you. You're here to spread you're hate on others, make yourself feel like a bigger man. You're mad cause you didn't do your research and I put you in your place. Go ahead, call me more names. I can't believe I took a bullet for shitheads like you who have no respect.