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Plus, go get a dremel tool and add dimples to the wings to help with the boundary layer issues. I’ll write a Matlab program to simulate the dimpling and maximize the effect, with Monte Carlo analyses. The size of the dimples versus the locations, in some grid pattern.
 
Good to see my question woke up the monster in so many here😁... been a while since someone stoked you all up ain't it? lol😂
Wanted an opinion if they'd work from someone thats used them. Glueing doesnt agree with me, considering its an aero part that experiences downforce. Thanks

stick on wings with carbon vinyl wrap from Ali express are ...., right up there with clear clutch covers and discussions about the right color cush drives.
The short answer is buy a bike with wings if you feel thats important but a cheaper option would be get some V4R stickers and put them on instead
 
Plus, go get a dremel tool and add dimples to the wings to help with the boundary layer issues. I’ll write a Matlab program to simulate the dimpling and maximize the effect, with Monte Carlo analyses. The size of the dimples versus the locations, in some grid pattern.

Would be really cool if the dimple grid pattern somehow spelled out DUCATISTA ON BOARD
 
I can program that up, then let it run with AI assistance for a week to see if that’s a solution. I could also vary the dimple size and depth. I’ll go get busy now
 
Chat suckme says:

Designing an efficient wing size and dimple pattern for a motorcycle to generate 50 kg of downforce at 150 km/h (93 mph) is a complex engineering task that depends on various factors. It's important to note that the specific design will vary based on the motorcycle's shape, weight distribution, and intended use.

However, I can provide some general principles and considerations for designing such a system:

  1. Aerodynamics: To generate downforce, you'll need aerodynamic surfaces, typically wings or spoilers. The size and shape of these surfaces will depend on the motorcycle's characteristics.
  2. Speed and Downforce Relationship: The amount of downforce generated by a wing is directly proportional to the square of the airspeed. In this case, you're targeting 150 km/h (93 mph). The downforce required at this speed will be significantly different from what's needed at lower speeds. The design should be optimized for this specific speed.
  3. Weight Distribution: Consider the motorcycle's weight distribution and balance. The downforce should be distributed in a way that enhances stability and traction while riding.
  4. Wing Size: The size of the wing or spoiler will depend on the desired downforce. To calculate the required wing size, you'll need to consider the motorcycle's weight, desired downforce, and the desired balance between front and rear downforce.
  5. Wing Angle and Dimple Pattern: The angle of attack of the wing and the dimple pattern will also affect performance. These should be carefully studied and tested to optimize downforce generation while minimizing drag.
  6. Wind Tunnel Testing: For precise design, it's advisable to conduct wind tunnel testing or use computational fluid dynamics (CFD) simulations to fine-tune the wing size, angle, and dimple pattern. This will help you achieve the desired downforce efficiently.
  7. Material and Weight Considerations: The choice of materials for the wing will affect its weight. A lighter wing may be more desirable, but it should be structurally strong enough to withstand the forces generated during high-speed riding.
  8. Legal Considerations: Ensure that the modifications comply with local road regulations and safety standards. Adding aerodynamic elements to a motorcycle can have legal implications.
  9. Real-world Testing: After designing the wing, it's essential to conduct real-world testing to verify its performance and safety under various conditions.
Keep in mind that designing and implementing aerodynamic modifications for a motorcycle is a highly specialized task that requires engineering expertise. It's advisable to consult with professionals or experts in the field of motorcycle aerodynamics to ensure safety and performance.

In other words garbage.....
 
Incidentally, I'm curious if the 18..19 fairing would continue to be optimally aerodynamic if winglets were added, since it's not designed for them. Not sure how the fairing would cope with the added drag.

The 20+ fairings are wider with different vents. I found the 20 bike with winglets more stable at 150+ mph, especially in the corners. Anyone that's used winglets on an 18..19 on track at speeds can chip in?
 
Because you're inapt to understand the details or discuss theory, like hydraulic switches on a billet clutch? And when you get called out you decide to talk trash rather than be productive?

It must be a crime to be proactive around here and test the details or forum members knowledge, but damn let me send everyone a box of tissue for their crying eyes or something to do napkin math with
 
Because you're inapt to understand the details or discuss theory, like hydraulic switches on a billet clutch? And when you get called out you decide to talk trash rather than be productive?

It must be a crime to be proactive around here and test the details or forum members knowledge, but damn let me send everyone a box of tissue for their crying eyes or something to do napkin math with

It’s a bike forum for ..... sake, not judgement day.

Who are you to test anyone’s knowledge?

Also I never professed to be a technician and didn’t know about hydraulic switches for that application, nor did I argue.
 
Who TF are you to doubt me?! A bike forum for knowledge, is that not what this or is pointless banter around the coffee pot? This forum sucks if it's just useless shop talk. Of course I'll call out technical details or provide insight to tools etc to make the job easier, but that's where people get offended?
 

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