Its one subjective test.
When looking at these graphs, you need a pile of them to start to see what's really going on.
One doesn't cut it.
Akro Or Termi ?????
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Its one subjective test.
When looking at these graphs, you need a pile of them to start to see what's really going on.
One doesn't cut it.
I think you should go back and re-read my post when I wrote about the different trim values for Akra/Termi maps.
Look at the mapping and see if nothing stands out which would suggest some optimizing on the part of Akrapovic to make the most of the stock maps.
I'm very suspicious of any dyno chart I see posted here. Most look like something someone whipped up in MS Paint.
if that is what Tuneboy is reporting for termi after tuning then they are doing a very poor job. I have a full termi with rapidbike and buttdyno says the mid range is much much better than that. not to mention those crazy HP numbers...
is there a way to add the stock dyno to that chart for a comparison of the 3? I am very curious since I am considering dropping more $$$ and want the most bang for my buck. I care very little about the up top numbers but the midrange bump is what really would matter the most. Thanks!
Nonsense.
Which stock map? the one termi did for the full system?
It is not designed to throw on a bike and enjoy out of the box. That is a waist of money unless you want to spend 3G's on sound.
No aftermarket exhaust system is ever meant to be added and not tuned to the bike.
Look at it in reality.
They are both good exhaust, and are both very close in performance.
Not one will give you an edge on the track over the other, because they preform so close to one another.
Akra cost more, but looks a little nicer, build quality a hair higher, and reported that the sound is nicer.
Without a custom tune it will not outperform the full termi with upmap key.
With the custom tune, you can adjust the midrange dip on the Akra.
Both have pro's and con's, but in the end, they are both good products
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I can tell you that my bike on the same dyno went up about 10 nm around the 5k range. From memory complete OEM stock it went from 75nm to 85. Can I tell the difference when riding. Yes I can. Big time.
When I went from stock to Akra without the tune, could I tell the difference? No. Just the noise. After the custom tune, yes. My 2 cents.
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On the fence about the slip-ons and Rapid Bike or the Upmap.
The Rapid Bike looks like the way to go based on my first impression.
Any thoughts?
The Rapid Bike looks like the way to go based on my first impression.
Any thoughts?
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You can run the Rapidbike overtop the upmap.
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Thanks for the info.
I'm liking the idea of the Rapid Bike option.
The only bummer is having to play with a MS OS again.
I have had enough with the HEX CAN stuff with my Audi. Might have to do APR Mobile.
I'm liking the idea of the Rapid Bike option.
The only bummer is having to play with a MS OS again.
I have had enough with the HEX CAN stuff with my Audi. Might have to do APR Mobile.
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Or get Phil's cored exhaust! Loving mine! With the TB Akra tune and trims, the bike is prolly making Akra + hp/torque 
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That is gonna be the plan if I can't get the others.
The local powder coating shop does the thermal stuff and I was thinking of getting the aluminum plates coated black like the 2015's have now.
The local powder coating shop does the thermal stuff and I was thinking of getting the aluminum plates coated black like the 2015's have now.
The new forward exit Carbon Termi cans look like being a winner.
I notice there's huge improvements in the advertised power curve.
It appears as though there's an air filter with the new slip-on kit as well.
If this was out at the time the 1199 was revealed, I should imagine it's the system we would still be using as the yard stick.
Seriously considering swapping my Titanium Termi slip-ons for the new design
I notice there's huge improvements in the advertised power curve.
It appears as though there's an air filter with the new slip-on kit as well.
If this was out at the time the 1199 was revealed, I should imagine it's the system we would still be using as the yard stick.
Seriously considering swapping my Titanium Termi slip-ons for the new design
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