Anyone see this week's MCN superbike shootout?

adamd · Apr 9, 2017

I dont completely understand the foot peg riding but i like the loose let her do her thing ... so do you trail brake the panigale more than others ?

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royal · Apr 9, 2017

I just mean that I try to be balanced on the footpads and put my weight through the inside peg to lean the bike as well as counter steering. The most efficient input is to to just push on the inside bar to get the bike to lean but if your weight is not balanced on the foot peg you're fighting the bike so it makes sense in my mind to lean the bike from the foot peg as well.

adamd · Apr 9, 2017

It seems like when you hang off the side your weight would be on the inside peg more anyway ? Atleast to me it seems that way...
Thanks for your patience with me too !

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750steve · Apr 9, 2017

royal said:
To push the Panigale it's quite different to other bikes. They mention in the MCN shootout that you have to ride with a loose grip on the handlebars and let it move around underneath you and that you have to be be smooth moving it from left to right.

The first part about being loose with the handle bars and letting it shimmy is 100% right and only a person that's rode one for a decent amount of time on track would understand that so it's quite cool they mention it. If you hang onto the bars too tight it transfers all the shake through the bike, no different to any other bike but it just does it a lot more on the Panigale so really makes a difference. I think it's because the Pani is set up in a way that is very sensitive to make it drop on its side and turn very quickly and be easy to trail brake really deep. It takes a little while to get used to how easy it drops down. On the average Jap inline four you can ride pretty fast before you start to experience this.

I actually disagree with the part about needing to be smooth transferring left to right or dropping into corners. The Pani is a bit slower to turn than other bikes so I get around this by slamming it on its side as quick as I can to get it turned and stand it up again. I guess you still need to be smooth whilst doing this but I don't think you need swooping lines like with older Ducatis.

This vid I took at Oulton, UK is quite a good demonstration. My front speed sensor was broken so all the electronics were not working and I had no quick shift either so everything is manual. I'm short shifting up the gears by letting off the throttle quickly with a bit of pressure on the gear shifter. The second half of the track has a lot of corners and gradients and you have to let the bike wheelie and shake around as it likes to get the most out of it.

[youtube]THMGCNQ11xM[/youtube]

Great video!, Oulton is my favourite track to ride, done it a few years ago on my wed kwaker, dam I miss that bike!

Still think I'll end up putting an HM shifter on the 1199, gear changes way better than the std Ducati one!!

https://youtu.be/irMAIhzZf1I

BadBoyBeltran · Apr 9, 2017

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Vid is out.

wowjudo · Apr 9, 2017

not sure why but it seemed like a honda commercial to me

royal · Apr 9, 2017

Haha I was thinking that earlier. The Blade is a kg lighter than the Panigale which is very impressive. I'd much rather have light weight than power. I'd also much rather have a Panigale than a Blade

cristhian702 · Apr 10, 2017

royal said:
To push the Panigale it's quite different to other bikes. They mention in the MCN shootout that you have to ride with a loose grip on the handlebars and let it move around underneath you and that you have to be be smooth moving it from left to right.

The first part about being loose with the handle bars and letting it shimmy is 100% right and only a person that's rode one for a decent amount of time on track would understand that so it's quite cool they mention it. If you hang onto the bars too tight it transfers all the shake through the bike, no different to any other bike but it just does it a lot more on the Panigale so really makes a difference. I think it's because the Pani is set up in a way that is very sensitive to make it drop on its side and turn very quickly and be easy to trail brake really deep. It takes a little while to get used to how easy it drops down. On the average Jap inline four you can ride pretty fast before you start to experience this.

I actually disagree with the part about needing to be smooth transferring left to right or dropping into corners. The Pani is a bit slower to turn than other bikes so I get around this by slamming it on its side as quick as I can to get it turned and stand it up again. I guess you still need to be smooth whilst doing this but I don't think you need swooping lines like with older Ducatis.

This vid I took at Oulton, UK is quite a good demonstration. My front speed sensor was broken so all the electronics were not working and I had no quick shift either so everything is manual. I'm short shifting up the gears by letting off the throttle quickly with a bit of pressure on the gear shifter. The second half of the track has a lot of corners and gradients and you have to let the bike wheelie and shake around as it likes to get the most out of it.

[youtube]THMGCNQ11xM[/youtube]

Quick question... what's your gopro set up. I can't seem to find a stable viewpoint without it getting in the way and the fact that I have a black screen doesn't help either :'(

panhandler · Apr 10, 2017

royal said:
I'd also much rather have a Panigale than a Blade

Yuuup! The Panigale is a whole other level and delivers the whole package with power, looks and prestige

I knew the 2017 fireblade was going to be a contender again but to get 1st place is pretty damn nice especially coming from pretty much the bottom in the past years. Its funny the guys saying that MCN reviews dont mean .... but i can guarantee you they were all MCN for life when they crowned the 1299 last year lol These dont mean .... to me but ill admit its nice to have the title on paper

Lanark · Apr 10, 2017

I think it will share a lot in common with the D16 in terms of engine. They will ditch the titanium collets and some of the other lightweight metals in the engine to keep servicing costs sensible.

Can't see why an L4 would be any wider than a Panigale. The Panigale has a very wide motor and I don't recall the D16 being wide.

royal · Apr 10, 2017

cristhian702 said:
Quick question... what's your gopro set up. I can't seem to find a stable viewpoint without it getting in the way and the fact that I have a black screen doesn't help either :'(

This one is just a suction cap stuck to the side of the petrol filler cap. I use a tie to the key ring just in case but it's never come off, absolutely rock solid and in my opinion the best place to take video from because you can see the riders hands and it's very stable. The only problem is some places don't let you put cameras on the tank. If I can't do this then I have a mount on the top of the yoke which is pretty good but it's just looking through the screen so not as interesting to watch.

royal · Apr 10, 2017

750steve said:
Great video!, Oulton is my favourite track to ride, done it a few years ago on my wed kwaker, dam I miss that bike!

Still think I'll end up putting an HM shifter on the 1199, gear changes way better than the std Ducati one!!

https://youtu.be/irMAIhzZf1I

That's looks awesome fun on the Kawasaki, nice riding. I was laughing when you went around about five people at the hairpin and chicane! That lot looked like they'd be slow in novice group!

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