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- May 19, 2012
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I was watching the development of the AR exhaust for many months and even before they had finalised the design I had decided I was going to get one when they became available. Mostly because I thought it looked the best and was a little unique too (not just another termi boy).
I was initially going to run the pipes without the Rapid Bike but decided to buy the RB Race module.
Did the install myself, took me around 5 hours cause I like to take my time.
It is well made and is clear how much time and effort has gone into getting this perfected from AR.
I wasn't too happy with the fuelling especially down low and after reading the tuning threads I realised the RB wasn't up to the task, this pipe changed the dynamic of this bike so much that It required more than the RB could provide.
A fellow forum member got me in touch with the owner of Tune Boy and I spent a whole day with him at his workshop. We did multiple runs on his dyno with the RB set up and the data had revealed why the bike was running so badly as already posted by wmcdonald in WAF's thread. Without hesitation I began to undo the 4 hour RB install (how long it took for me to get it on) and allow Tuneboy to reflash the stock ecu.
The results were very pleasing. Peak power when compared to the RB was insignificant (3hp gain) however my AF ratios are spot on right through the range and we even amended the throttle openings from factory spec to provide maximum HP throughout.
I was able to see 190HP on the dyno which I was also very happy about.
I got in touch with Rich from AR who has always been great to deal with (one of the best in my experience) and he agreed to refund my RB module less a small restocking fee which I was more than happy with... Thanks Rich!
The only slight concern I have is the HP & TQ drop in the midrange as seen in the attached pics. I'm going to spend some more time with Wayne shortly and try to get that area improved so watch this space.
I should have dyno'd with the stock cans on first though because I don't really know if it is better or worse especially given the results that WAfatboy had experienced.
What is really interesting is that I was able to compare my dyno graph against two other bikes that Wayne had run on the same dyno a few days before mine.
Here is my bike compared to the S1000RR and ZX10R
Pani is the Red line.
ZX10R is the green line obviously...
ZX10R and S1000RR both have STD pipes, ZX10R had been tuned by ECU
flashing with TB software, S1000RR had PCV and no other adjustments.
One graph is HP the other is Torque.
I think it is good to have these two bikes on the graph as they put they not only put the power drop into perspective but also how the Pani is superior everywhere else.
I will keep you updated after we tackle the midrange with Wayne, stay tuned!
I was initially going to run the pipes without the Rapid Bike but decided to buy the RB Race module.
Did the install myself, took me around 5 hours cause I like to take my time.
It is well made and is clear how much time and effort has gone into getting this perfected from AR.
I wasn't too happy with the fuelling especially down low and after reading the tuning threads I realised the RB wasn't up to the task, this pipe changed the dynamic of this bike so much that It required more than the RB could provide.
A fellow forum member got me in touch with the owner of Tune Boy and I spent a whole day with him at his workshop. We did multiple runs on his dyno with the RB set up and the data had revealed why the bike was running so badly as already posted by wmcdonald in WAF's thread. Without hesitation I began to undo the 4 hour RB install (how long it took for me to get it on) and allow Tuneboy to reflash the stock ecu.
The results were very pleasing. Peak power when compared to the RB was insignificant (3hp gain) however my AF ratios are spot on right through the range and we even amended the throttle openings from factory spec to provide maximum HP throughout.
I was able to see 190HP on the dyno which I was also very happy about.
I got in touch with Rich from AR who has always been great to deal with (one of the best in my experience) and he agreed to refund my RB module less a small restocking fee which I was more than happy with... Thanks Rich!
The only slight concern I have is the HP & TQ drop in the midrange as seen in the attached pics. I'm going to spend some more time with Wayne shortly and try to get that area improved so watch this space.
I should have dyno'd with the stock cans on first though because I don't really know if it is better or worse especially given the results that WAfatboy had experienced.
What is really interesting is that I was able to compare my dyno graph against two other bikes that Wayne had run on the same dyno a few days before mine.
Here is my bike compared to the S1000RR and ZX10R
Pani is the Red line.
ZX10R is the green line obviously...
ZX10R and S1000RR both have STD pipes, ZX10R had been tuned by ECU
flashing with TB software, S1000RR had PCV and no other adjustments.
One graph is HP the other is Torque.
I think it is good to have these two bikes on the graph as they put they not only put the power drop into perspective but also how the Pani is superior everywhere else.
I will keep you updated after we tackle the midrange with Wayne, stay tuned!
