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Prince Albert said:
Turn the EBC off, it's way smoother on the throttle release
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You are absolutely right. For months my 1299 ran rough with a jerky throttle. My bike would nearly stall around 4500 rpm. Just to see what its like I turned EBC off.I thought it would fell like throwing out an anchor on deceleration. It didn't. It was very smooth. The throttle was no longer jerky. And the 4500 rpm stall is gone.

I also recommend setting ABS to 2. When set at 3, trail braking in corners is very jerky.
 
Stephen6 said:
You are absolutely right. For months my 1299 ran rough with a jerky throttle. My bike would nearly stall around 4500 rpm. Just to see what its like I turned EBC off.I thought it would fell like throwing out an anchor on deceleration. It didn't. It was very smooth. The throttle was no longer jerky. And the 4500 rpm stall is gone.

I also recommend setting ABS to 2. When set at 3, trail braking in corners is very jerky.
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...i must admit.....it feels the polar opposite to me:


3 = Least amount of Engine Braking

OFF = Most aggressive Engine Brake - Boat Anchor

it makes sense if you think about it, that the huge pistons of the 1299 would impact the engine braking dramatically....after the 1098 engine series, engine brake control electronics became somewhat mandatory in order to help rear wheel from lock up on de-acceleration
 
RD16RR said:
...i must admit.....it feels the polar opposite to me:


3 = Least amount of Engine Braking

OFF = Most aggressive Engine Brake - Boat Anchor

it makes sense if you think about it, that the huge pistons of the 1299 would impact the engine braking dramatically....after the 1098 engine series, engine brake control electronics became somewhat mandatory in order to help rear wheel from lock up on de-acceleration
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You sir are correct. It's not rocket science...... it's in the manual!!

Quote:

The system allows the rider to set "engine brake”, the
range being from a maximum engine braking with
system set to OFF and progressively decreasing as
level increases.

EBC CHARACTERISTIC DEFAULT

OFF The EBC is disabled.
The engine delivers maximum
engine brake.

1 In this level the engine delivers a considerable engine
brake, but lower than the one that can be obtained with
EBC OFF.

2 In this level the engine delivers a poor engine brake.
This level is recommended to any rider requiring reduced
engine braking in deceleration.
It is the default level for the RACE and
SPORT Riding Modes.

3 In this level the engine delivers the least engine brake.
This level is recommended to any rider requiring very
low engine braking in deceleration.
It is the default level for the WET Riding
Mode.
 
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Mutt1979 said:
You sir are correct. It's not rocket science...... it's in the manual!!

Quote:

The system allows the rider to set "engine brake”, the
range being from a maximum engine braking with
system set to OFF and progressively decreasing as
level increases.

EBC CHARACTERISTIC DEFAULT

OFF The EBC is disabled.
The engine delivers maximum
engine brake.

1 In this level the engine delivers a considerable engine
brake, but lower than the one that can be obtained with
EBC OFF.

2 In this level the engine delivers a poor engine brake.
This level is recommended to any rider requiring reduced
engine braking in deceleration.
It is the default level for the RACE and
SPORT Riding Modes.

3 In this level the engine delivers the least engine brake.
This level is recommended to any rider requiring very
low engine braking in deceleration.
It is the default level for the WET Riding
Mode.
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Thanks...i did in fact post a portion of this a page or 2 back...but it went unnoticed...LOL !! :rolleyes:


EBC Setting:
1
Rather important engine brake, but less than that obtained with EBC OFF
It is the default level for all Riding Modes

2
Very low engine brake, recommended only for track use and for riders requiring a low engine brake when decelerating

3
Minimum engine brake, recommended only for track use and for riders preferring a very low engine brake when decelerating
 
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That's what I meant to say but it came out wrong in my delivery.
I actually have engined braking on 3

Sorry 4 the confusion
 
RD16RR said:
Thanks...i did in fact post a portion of this a page or 2 back...but it went unnoticed...LOL !! :rolleyes:
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Never mind that, you've just made me feel less of a man by having to admit I've read the manual instead of just getting on with it.............. :D
 
some of this is against what the manual description. like the 195hi engine mode, people including myself have found 195hi to be more predictable and provide better feedback, therefore smoother response. yet the manual states, use 195lo for smoother power delivery, and 195hi for more aggressive drive

is this an issue with the programming of EBC response not really delivering what we as ride would expect, therefore making seem like it's not as smooth?

i personally find the quick shift to be sporadic at best
 
jyli19 said:
some of this is against what the manual description. like the 195hi engine mode, people including myself have found 195hi to be more predictable and provide better feedback, therefore smoother response. yet the manual states, use 195lo for smoother power delivery, and 195hi for more aggressive drive

is this an issue with the programming of EBC response not really delivering what we as ride would expect, therefore making seem like it's not as smooth?

i personally find the quick shift to be sporadic at best
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A lot of this has to do with the pilot I would say..........
 
^agree, i am definitely the weakest link on the motorcycle. I was hoping the electronics would compensate a little bit more.

The DTC and ABS definitely works, i appreciate the added safety net.
 
One person may like it, another may not I guess.

I also have to put my hand up on this one as it occured to me I have the R not the 1299. Essentially I have smaller pistons and different gearing so I may not be seeing engine braking or a snatchy throttle to the same degree as some are experiencing.....
 
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Yesterday, I tried EBC 2 and 3 and felt surging in the 4000 - 4500 rpm range. I set the EBC to "off" and the surging went away. This is on a 15R with a Rapid Bike Race and DP full Akrapovic system. Off is fine with me since I have ridden big twins for years.
 
That is almost exactly my experience. My 2016 1299 felt like it was going to stall around 4500 rpm. I have RapidBike Evo. I was very disappointed with RapidBike Evo, and had Yamman at RapidBike look at my mapping. He said everything looked fine. I thought RapidBike made no difference to my bike. Finally, just to try it, I turned EBC off. The bike no longer feels like it's going to stall at 4500 rpm, and it feels stronger in all rpm ranges. EBC was interfering with RapidBike. And the engine braking is now very smooth.

I also changed ABS from 3 to 2, and now all my braking is smoother. With ABS 3 it felt jerky. I'll try the ABS 1 setting, but I won't leave it there, because, on the street, I want corner braking control.

Yamaha made its own electronic controls for the 2015 R1 rather than use Bosch, and the R1 controls are perfect.
 
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I loaded Tuneboy on my 1299, as well as the cruise control you get a form of launch control and some different throttle maps. With standard exhaust no hesitations or stalling, everything nice and smooth. Fitted undertail Termis and since I didn't have a fuel map for them I just loaded the full Akra map, this worked beautifully and will suffice until I can get to a Dyno.

No modifications to the wiring and you can put everything back to standard in a few minutes, in my case not the exhaust of course.

Cheers
 

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