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Bitubo Suspension Update *****video*******

I figured I would finally give you guys an update on how the Bitubo suspension upgrade performed. So, I traveled to PBIR yesterday for a track day with Florida track days. For those that don't know, I purchased a base and for the exception of the MWR air filter, the 41T upgraded sprocket with 520 conversion, and the Bitubo steering damper, Bitubo rear shock and Bitubo Nitrogen charger fork cartridges, the rest of the bike is stock.

The Track
First off, let me tell you that the track is smooth and wide. In most of the corners, there are multiple race lines. Other than JenningsGP about 5 weeks ago, it's been about 9 years since I've been on a track. JenningsGP has places like turn 8 where if you go wide, you may wind up crashing you bike because of the pavement out there. At PBIR, that's not a problem. A lot of people were running very tight turns and I was able to go wide and come underneath them on the exits. The biggest complaint I heard prior to going to PBIR were, "Watch out for the walls". They are close to the track. To be honest, I was so focused on riding faster, learning the lines, and having fun that I never once looked at or thought about the walls.

Tires
I was running the Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa's SP V2s and on the warmers I had the pressures set to (front - 33psi, rear -36psi). I know people say you don't need warmers for these tires, but John from South Central Race Center recommended I use them and gave me tire pressures to start with. Also, the tire warmers kept the tires the same or near the same temperature once off the track. My main reason for running the warmers is so that I didn't have to wait for the tires to heat up. I went out there on the first lap and was moving at pace. I purchased the Pole position Chicken Hawks from John and I would use the low setting hot off the track. Tire wear seemed to be even all the way around. Once they called Advance on the track, I would turn the warmers on high, for about 20 minutes. . I think I am going to run the SCs on my next track day in February at Homestead.

Settings
I cannot remember my settings, but Andrew at Melillimoto setup the bike for me a few weeks ago. I think I have the rear shock setup as the following, Compression - 12 clicks from 0, low speed damping 14 clicks from 0.

Bitubo Suspension
Initial impression was the bike feels very stable. I could tell the bike where I wanted to go and it did exactly that. Coming out of turns I could get on the gas and it just held the line and took off like a rocket. A buddy of mine Jason who use to race for 10 years told me in the pits that my lines were clean and I looked very smooth and fast. His observation was specifically about turns 4 and 5. I didn't feel a big amount of squat coming out of turns, felt stable at 175mph coming down the back straight, from 6 down to 2 then tipping it in to turn 10. I'm not sure what else to say other than it just feels very stable and with that feeling gave me confidence to go faster and faster.

The bike
For those that say this bike is not fast enough or doesn't do this or that, there is not one bike in my group, (S1000RR, CBR1000, RSV4s, ZX10, MVs) that I didn't run down on the back straight, if there were in front of me. And once on the back straight, not one bike passed me. I'm not saying I was the fastest, but I damn sure I was one of the fastest guys in I yesterday. There was one Panigale I could not catch in one of the sessions because of traffic. Seemed like there were 500 guys in I.

Video
At the 7:00 minute mark, I split to guys on the back straight and keep it moving....
PBIR 12/22/13 Int Session 4 - YouTube
 
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Great write up Juice!
Hey are those the PSI settings that John recommended for those tires? And I am sure he told you that the true way of taking PSI readings is now when they are HOT!!! Years ago it was cold and its since changed.

So happy to hear you are loving your track time and getting the feel for it so much. Just when I am hanging up the leathers you get the fever! :)

Keep up the great work and after talking w John you will see a difference in the other DOT tires for track. Be sure to update everyone as you are doing brother! OOHRAH!
 
Wow, don't those PSI settings seem a bit high for the track? They seem like road settings to me....I could be completely wrong though, maybe because they are hot settings instead of cold? :confused:
 
Here you go, straight from Pirelli!
 

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Nice job Leon. Post some pictures!


Wow, don't those PSI settings seem a bit high for the track? They seem like road settings to me....I could be completely wrong though, maybe because they are hot settings instead of cold? :confused:

He said "on the warmer" pressures, i.e hot. ;)
 
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Pretty sure he told me 33/34 and 36 on the warmers. I could be mistaken. We talked for quite a bit. He did say guys run them with less tire pressure, but running them low kills tire life. He also said the there would be no difference in grip. I ran lower pressures at Jennings a few weeks ago and by the end of the day I was pushing the front coming out of 14. No pushing yesterday. When I call him next week to order the SCs, I will confirm the tire pressures.
 
Nice, Leon, I am glad that it was fun for you, I 'll see @ homestead on Feb, 2nd...
 
Thanks Gunny. Will do. I was telling one of my DC boys about you. He races and he thinks he knows you. I'll hit you later on. You know everyone or they know you, lol.
 
Yturan, where in Orlando do you live? Tons of us meet up from time to time. There's a huge group going down to Homestead in Feb.
 
FYI

we run Pirelli Superbikes SC2 ( same compound ) pressures hot : (just in from the track ) :

front : 32
rear : 26,5

33/36 do sound road pressures. and the idea that the rear shoudl be higher than the front also sounds akward...

source : Pirelli Racing Belgium / IDM sbk winning team
 
FYI

we run Pirelli Superbikes SC2 ( same compound ) pressures hot : (just in from the track ) :

front : 32
rear : 26,5

33/36 do sound road pressures. and the idea that the rear shoudl be higher than the front also sounds akward...

source : Pirelli Racing Belgium / IDM sbk winning team

You run SC2 in front and back?
 
good question and remark!

SC1 front, SC2 rear...

i haven't heard of a diff between SC1 / SC2 though...
 
good question and remark!

SC1 front, SC2 rear...

i haven't heard of a diff between SC1 / SC2 though...

I'm pretty sure the lower the number, the softer the compound. There is an SC0 as well but as far as I've read, most people on track will run SC1 up front and SC2 in the rear.
 
Guys, he is running the SP's. They're the road going version of the Supercorsa tires. They need higher pressures.

Kope and others are discussing the SC compound, which is the track compound. They have a softer carcass and harder rubber.

I run the same pressures as Kope pretty much on the SC1/SC2 Slicks.
Front - 31psi Hot off the track
Rear - 27psi Hot off the track
 
I did say I was running the SPs. When I talk to my guy, I will make sure I was running the right tire pressures. Forgive my photgrapher/umbrella girl/Pit girl.. She was working with an Iphone 4. Time to upgrade her.
 

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love the U-Haul trailer setup ;) like mine before...

these times will be gone soon ;)


nice job on running up front!
the only guys that passed me at Roebling last time were Nate Kern himself and a WERA expert on his 200HP + ZX-10R
the 1199 is a powerhouse.

now you just need a louder exhaust ;)

i am working on #2 and 3 this week, so early next year is still open ;)

that was a lot of ;)
 
Phill, If I send them to you this week, I need them back by Jan. 20th at the latest. The other thing is, can I run them without a ECU re-map/Tuneboy/Rexxer? Once February gets here, I have track days lined up back to back to back and no time to have for anything but riding, lol.

PS, the uhaul worked great. The lexus truck didnt get good gas mileage, but it did the job. Even had room for the generator. Thanks for the recommendation.
 
sure will.

i have 2 brand new extra cans here to prep, and offer for sale. just in case.
the stock setup still showed to be rich, so i wouldn't worry...

glad it worked out!

what i loved about the uhaul deal was the offered insurance...
 

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