Slicks on the Road, Pros and Cons?

I'm amused by this. You can get your knee down with sport touring tires let alone sticky DOT rubber.

panibadboy said:

Max Wrist is working hard

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Is that the Angeles crest? Why are they so slow?

baggerman said:

Is that the Angeles crest? Why are they so slow?

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you're sure you watched it ? its pretty fast to me.

In one of the early Mission impossible's Cruise is on the Crest (allegedly Bulgaria or some such) being chased I think. There's a moment in the film where he gets his knee down (he's in jeans). The look on his face is priceless (probably put a bunch of heat into that knee).

OK they're going pretty good at the end. What's startling is the shear level of stupidity.

baggerman said:

OK they're going pretty good at the end. What's startling is the shear level of stupidity.

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I saw some of them wearing T-shirts over their leathers at the beginning and that told me all I needed to know. I’ve watched a few of his videos over the years and every time I thought ‘what a moron’.

spooky said:

I saw some of them wearing T-shirts over their leathers at the beginning and that told me all I needed to know. I’ve watched a few of his videos over the years and every time I thought ‘what a moron’.

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He deffo is, but I guess as entertainment very fun to watch.

Kruz, dont listen to us what the .... do we know? Just get some slicks and see how you go I'm sure you'll be getting your knee down everywhere and never fall off.



From the Pirelli site and in order; cold temps, hot, then time on the warmers before use which tells you their operating temperature is 80c. Do ya think there might be a reason for that? Now by all means if you think you can push hard enough on a public road and keep the heat in them, go for it.

Of course there are exceptions, choreographed youtube click farm idiots with their desktop fanboys, but out in the real world there's more than one reason why even A group track riders don't run slicks on the street. Part of the problem is that people think "race rubber" is stickier than street rubber, when in fact that is only true under certain parameters. A street tire is grippier than race rubber in most conditions and has a much broader operating range if you cannot maintain the pace to keep race rubber in its operating window. For an extreme example check out MotoGP which has the grippiest high tech slicks on the planet, if they do a slow lap or do a series of lefts then a right without being sensitive to how much its cooled they can crash.

Personally I think scrubbing a 200 on the street is insane. When the geometries right you should have a little bit of unscrubbed front just when a 190's scrubbed. With a 200 all the front is scrubbed. Way too committed. I use a Dunlop Q5S as a sport touring front. This tire has about as much grip as slicks did when I quit racing. Surprisingly grippy (you can run it in/trail it in with abandon and it still turns with no push). And I put over 5000 miles on one. Slicks? Is dragging your elbow on the street going to become a thing?

Agree, look at the front tire to show the level of commitment. Plain old Rosso 4s are great on a sports tourer, for fast street Supercorsas are ideal but their superb grip tends to fall off a cliff well before you reach the wear bars. I would take a stab and say that most "average" riders would be better off on a mid range tire like the Rosso rather than a SC for mixed street in terms of longevity, quick warm up and grip in mixed conditions.

Rosso or Rosso Corsa? My understanding is the Rosso is better than the Rosso Corsa if you tend to ride in the rain a lot. I would think for novice or beginning intermediate Rosso Corsa would serve most people well.

The posted vid exhibits some very aggressive borderline stupid street riding. However, in terms of overall “speed” and tire use, relative to racing or top group track riding (which slicks are designed for and are beneficial) it’s not race track fast.

JSR29 said:

The posted vid exhibits some very aggressive borderline stupid street riding. However, in terms of overall “speed” and tire use, relative to racing or top group track riding (which slicks are designed for and are beneficial) it’s not race track fast.

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Yep not even sorta race pace. What surprised me most was his lines, pretty bad. There's a youtube of an old guy at the Nurburgring on a Panigale, really tidy.

Guess he is asking cause he has NFI

bp_SFV4 said:

Rosso or Rosso Corsa? My understanding is the Rosso is better than the Rosso Corsa if you tend to ride in the rain a lot. I would think for novice or beginning intermediate Rosso Corsa would serve most people well.

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I find the Rosso's too round (slow steering) but real predictable. My friend put some SC's on his 1098. That is a really good front, just flat sticky.

Racing/track days when the day is sub 20degrees ill run a treaded SC1 on the front and a slick on the rear. Raced at Phillip Island a fortnight ago with this combo, and the max temperature was 17degrees , lucky to keep the front at 40-45 degrees on track .

This is what gives sports riders a bad name, he just crossed the double yellow on a blind R/H corner passing 2 cars. Max Wrist action is following him like a total tool

"Max Wrist" has been airlifted (transported to a hospital by a helicopter) twice. In one of the incidents an equal "Two Wheel Jesus" username or something to the effect died. I think he had another riding partner "Badkittytime" that also died.

He's not long for this world.

Going around the outside of cagers isn't impressive. If you want to prove you're highspeed, there's tracks and racing clubs for that. Proving you're the fastest street rider by breaking every traffic law on the books is tantamount to declaring you are the biggest .... on the road.

it would be best if people like him didnt glorify this kind of riding. I looked at the vid and thought yeah that's just a normal fast ride but with no situational awareness and a lot of stupid risk taking. I stopped using go pro's when I clicked that I was recording my own dangerous driving conviction

Paul G said:

it would be best if people like him didnt glorify this kind of riding. I looked at the vid and thought yeah that's just a normal fast ride but with no situational awareness and a lot of stupid risk taking. I stopped using go pro's when I clicked that I was recording my own dangerous driving

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Max Douche and Bunny are back out in California now. He basically got ran off of The Tail of the Dragon by THP for this very reason. He has no regard for others safety and rarely if ever takes responsibility for his fuckups.

Glad he’s back on the West coast.