Burning oil question

Mine does the same thing I just keep an eye on the oil level. I figure @ 2500 miles motor still need more hard riding not a big deal.

Update"¦So since it crossed the 3,000mi mark it has stopped burning any oil. I haven't had to put any in at all since then, no matter how normal or hard I ride it. At 3,500 miles now. I did the manufacturer break in method for first 600mi then 1,500 mi.

So my experience is very similar to a lot of you on here. It has also just about stopped smoking at startup (I have videos of how bad it was up till 3,000mi) and the oil level doesn't move at all. I check it every single ride in the same manner.

Just an update for those who like to make comparisons to their own experiences.

NOLA.

Been following this thread for a while. Glad your lady has finally stopped burning NOLA.

Mine is sitting at 2800 after pulling a 320 loop this weekend......and oil dropped from top line to middle of the high/low lines. Hoping mine follows the same route as yours as she clears 3k. She's staying in the garage either way.

Andddd"¦.now its back"¦Awesome.

Burning oil 2.0

So, I just put the full (I say "I" as in the Ducati mech) exhaust on a few weeks ago. The mech noticed that there was definitely oil burning going on from the exhaust port. He opined that the cylinder sleeves are out of spec, same as two other Panigale's he did a full teardown on (Warranty). I told him that it was burning oil but totally stopped at 3,000mi. He said to just keep an eye on it, it will prob need new sleeves eventually.

Soooo"¦ride for a bit, and not only is it burning oil with the new full manifold, it smells like an oil refinery on cold start. WTF"¦ I just added a bunch of oil to bring it back up to between the lines. I made a video on cold start. I'll post tomm"¦

I have zero desire to park the bike in the shop for a few weeks exactly as the nice weather gets here. .... .... .....

This is just me venting. In the overall I still don't give that much of a ...., I love riding it. Just don't favor the downtime.

On the bright side, I finally solved the heat problem"¦lol"¦Now I can ride all day and not need burn cream"¦So I can carry motor oil instead

NOLA

EvoL said:

I don't think the bike should be on a rear stand when checking the oil.

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Rear stand doesn't really make any difference to the level shown.

On the Ducati stand, I guess the mild forward tilt is negated by the slight left lean.

As long as you drain completely and refilll exactly what the manual says. Then just make a note where the oil level is when in the rear stand, or front and rear stand if available.

The 1199's rings were seated at the factory on a dyno. The "breakin" is mostly about giving the engine time to get all it's metal shards out. I only did mine because Ducati said so. Most 1199 riders can't load the engine down enough, on the street, to properly seat the rings. That would be madness.

Many of the smokey new bikes, jap bikes have similar problems, is from a rich condition soaking the cat convertor from short gental rides cold. Also ice cold forged pistons will pass oil and rattle bad. I'd wait a while to see if the problem fixes itsself. Mass oil consumption is going to tar up the exhaust, and then when it's THAT obvious, it's an easy warranty claim.

Any decent perfomance engine should consume a little oil. Some consume a whole lot (rotory) It may lessen as the engine wears in completely. Top off as needed, but be careful not to overfill.

I use the 5min/5min rule to checking, or the morning cold/ morning cold check. You have to check in a like fashion all the time to get accurate readings. Cold check and 5min warm check are obviously going to have different levels.

Mine stopped smoking after 300 80mph miles.

Why people beat the hell out of a brand new engine I still do not understand. It seems that most consider this as being the best way to seat the rings... well it isn't. All it takes for rings to seat themselves properly is normal operation... when you beat on a "loose" motor all your doing is blowing oil past the rings and in essence lubricating the rings to the point that they have trouble seating. This is where you find motors that smoke on start-up and take thousands of miles to seat. Follow the manufacturers break-in instructions and all will be well... unless of course there are other issues with your motor.

Spring force deosn't seal the rings. The rings have very little spring tension. The pressure of combustion forces the rings outward into the cylinder. Those forces don't exist at low throttle. Some pistons have oddly shaped grooves to help force the ring out.

Just about every decent race engine I've built went straight to the dyno before the customer ever saw it.

If the crosshatching gets worn down to a normal level before the rings are fully seated, I have to tear the engine down, re hone it, and replace the rings.

There really isn't anything in the engine that knows the difference between being babied and being beat. If you think our weird smoking issues were odd for the first 300 miles, imagine how bad they'd be if Ducati skipped the dyno testing.

My 04 Mustang Mach1 drank 5qts of oil in it's first 2000 miles.

All modern engines have hard coatings on their rings to allow for fast wear-in, you do not need much combustion pressure. If you have too much you are blowing oil past the rings... follow the manufacturers guidelines and you will be fine.

Why are you comparing race engines to the Ducati motor? it is not a race engine nor is it built like one

There is no break-in at the factory... they quickly run the motorcycle to ensure that all is assembled well and functions properly including the transmission

Your 04 mustang was a very poorly designed and built vehicle... lets not compare

Bear in mind checking straight after a ride a lot of the oil will still be up inside the engine coating most of the internal parts, rockers, cams, rods etc. which equates to a lot of surface area. Leave it, not to cool, but enough to allow the oil to return back to the sump before checking. It might not be as bad as you think?

Every Ducati I've own has had smoke, at least on starting, maybe some unburnt fuel adding to the smoking too initially. My 848 miraculously stopped smoking overnight at 3447 miles.

But you will have to get out there and 'give it some'. Those are some damn big pistons and will take alot of running in! Also, it's a short stroke motor, so although the bike may be doing the milage, the physical distance covered by the pistons in terms of travel will be comparatively less to that of a longer stoke motor again meaning a longer running in period when compared to others.