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Wonderful that you are advocating a bike for your fiance; however, the Triumph 675 R is likely a WAY better bike.
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Wonderful that you are advocating a bike for your fiance; however, the Triumph 675 R is likely a WAY better bike.
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Love how the DTC yellow light is on pretty much the entire time he's on the throttle since he has DTC on Level 6. From the presser, they said they had full Pirelli wets on which would be a lot of fun, should have turned DTC down a few notches but I'm sure they didn't want any of the journos wadding up the bikes.
I'm excited about this bike, having owned all recent versions of both the mid-sized and large Superbikes I've always had a better relationship with the mid-sized models on the track. Everything about the 899 should make it handle even better than the 1199 (which already handles really well): Steeper rake by .5 degree with same 30mm fork offset will give it a touch less trail for quicker steering, overall 15mm shorter wheelbase will also increase agility, and the 180 rear tire rather than 200 will do the same. I can't wait to get one out on the track!
I'm excited about this bike, having owned all recent versions of both the mid-sized and large Superbikes I've always had a better relationship with the mid-sized models on the track. Everything about the 899 should make it handle even better than the 1199 (which already handles really well): Steeper rake by .5 degree with same 30mm fork offset will give it a touch less trail for quicker steering, overall 15mm shorter wheelbase will also increase agility, and the 180 rear tire rather than 200 will do the same. I can't wait to get one out on the track!
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I agree, it looks pretty strong and like it'll be be loads of fun on both the track and street. The 44T rear sprocket appears to really help with acceleration out of corners.
Ducati's test riders have apparently reported a 2 second lap time differential at Imola between the stock 899 and a stock 848. Pretty impressive if true.
Ducati's test riders have apparently reported a 2 second lap time differential at Imola between the stock 899 and a stock 848. Pretty impressive if true.
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8HP more and 15 lbs. less weight than 848 Evo would put it about the power/weight spec of a race-prepped 848 Evo, so it makes sense that bone-stock comparison of lap times would favor the 899. 2 seconds sounds like a lot though, it would have pull quite a bit harder on the straights to accomplish this, you're probably right that the 44T rear helps with that.
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And yet another glowing 899 review: Viserdown - Ducati 899 Panigale Review
I thought this particular paragraph was effective in bringing perspective to the issue of the bike being heavier than the 1199:
"The 899 is 5kg heavier than the 1199, which might make you think ‘wow, it’s heavy’ but the 1199 is an incredibly light motorcycle. If you look at it another way, the 899 is 5kg lighter than an 848 Evo and that’s with the 899 carrying ABS. No-one ever accused the 187kg 848 Evo of being heavy. The 899, at 182kg, is a tight package."
Good article and definitely worth a read.
I thought this particular paragraph was effective in bringing perspective to the issue of the bike being heavier than the 1199:
"The 899 is 5kg heavier than the 1199, which might make you think ‘wow, it’s heavy’ but the 1199 is an incredibly light motorcycle. If you look at it another way, the 899 is 5kg lighter than an 848 Evo and that’s with the 899 carrying ABS. No-one ever accused the 187kg 848 Evo of being heavy. The 899, at 182kg, is a tight package."
Good article and definitely worth a read.
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As an owner of two 1199's I naturally had to ask myself and go through the mental exercise of whether I need an 899, whether that be trading my base model road bike in on one, or having a third... If I asked the question a year ago, I think it would have been a "yes" for use on really twisty roads. But after becoming really comfortable with the 1199's obnoxious power and getting the handling sorted out, I now think an 1199 owner has absolutely nothing to gain in any respect by getting an 899. However, I believe there will still be a lot of interest in it from people moving up from 848's or going to buy a superbike for the first time.
If you think about it, the 899 should absolutely wipe the floor with most open-class bikes from even 5 years ago, so it should be still considered a proper superbike in its own right, and will probably be a blast, but I'll be keeping my 1199.
If you think about it, the 899 should absolutely wipe the floor with most open-class bikes from even 5 years ago, so it should be still considered a proper superbike in its own right, and will probably be a blast, but I'll be keeping my 1199.
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I would wait for the 899 Evo or 899 "SL" with Ohlins, color TFT screen, Lighter wheels, single sided swing arm, paint scheme etc. Hopefully??
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Great footage, especially because the bike is in white, interesting on some cornering the rider ever so slightly pulls in the clutch with his pointer finger, does this help with slippage to get better drive/control????
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Just want to add I'm no 899 hater, no reason to be, just seriously disagree with the 1199 being a scary, unmanageable, inferior package
So true.
Coming off a 848 nad having a choice between the 899 or the 1199 it is a no brainer to run away from the 899.
the 1199 can have the Ohlins, and the power and with the same weight, I have to ask why get a 899? The cost drove me away.
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Probably and old 125/250 GP racer who built that habit the hard way. Racing a 2-stroke you pretty much had to keep a finger on the clutch all the time in case the engine seized and you had to pull the clutch in to keep from being slingshot to the moon!
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