Ducati Motor Heads I need your help

Looking for any ideas. I have a 1199s with ABS with the Termignoni slip-on. I have two issues I don't think they are related but here they are.
The first problem is a hypothetical one if you know what I mean. (In no way were any speed laws broken) Winding out 3rd gear and shifting into 4th, it pulls as if the clutch is slipping and running very rough with a mild pull. Or, it pops out of gear, back into 3rd and over revs, when shifted into 5th it pulls strong and hard.
I took it to the dealer and their reply was they can't brake speed laws to test the bike, so sorry they can't help me. I asked if I could reproduce it on a dyno would they then fix it? I got a, "we will get back to you on that one."
That is when I ran into the new issue. Ducati sent me the letter to make an appointment with my dealer for the 41 tooth sprocket change and heat shields. I had my dealer put the Ducati quick-change sprocket carrier, 41 tooth sprocket, 15 tooth counter shaft sprocket and a new chain. Then the dealer tells me that they did not get the new up-map in for the electronics but it should be fine until the new up-map comes in next week. On the ride home, the bike started to sputter, spit and jump at 6000 RPM. If I get on it, the bike pulls hard. But, if I try to hold the RPM anywhere between 6000-9000 RPM, it is a wild ride like holding on to a bucking horse, it does this in all gears.
I took the bike back to the dealer with them telling first that they will put it on the computer. Again, stating that they can't brake the speed laws to test it.
After seeing a note on the computer from Ducati Techs saying its the DTC not liking the new sprocket without the new up-map, the dealer changed it back to a 39 tooth sprocket on the Ducati quick-change sprocket carrier. I was told to wait for the new up-map that will be in, sometime in the next 3-6 weeks or more. When I rode home it did the same thing with the new 39 tooth sprocket. But now, at 7000 RPM. I turned off the DTC and it still does it. I turned it back in to my dealer but they seemed stumped telling they needed to keep it to have the owner ride it.
I hope all of this makes sense.
Any ideas are welcome Thanks Guys.

1st) I'd start with looking under the tank and seeing if there is a pinched fuel line.

2nd) Find a new dealer.

3rd) Get an RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Fisher1199R you don't know how close I am to asking for that lol. I have had 5 springs on the slip-on brake, scratching the slip-on with the only fix being to put on a larger spring and my dash TFT screen melted coming close to starting fire and now after replacement my mileage is off by 2400 miles and the screen fogs up inside in the mornings. I may have got a "Lemon" the bike has been in the shop more then on the road. I love my Supermodel but she's a frustrating girl.

i dont know how many miles you have on the bike but you may need new clutch fluid. i have heard that before.

2 ducati doesnt offer a quick change sprocket. its the same one as the one you have now only 41 tooth and you keep the 15t in the front i dont know where you got 14t from.

mark419ny said:

i dont know how many miles you have on the bike but you may need new clutch fluid. i have heard that before.

2 ducati doesnt offer a quick change sprocket. its the same one as the one you have now only 41 tooth and you keep the 15t in the front i dont know where you got 14t from.

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Yes thanks for pointing that out, sorry about the type-O its a 15 tooth front (always a good idea to change both when your changing one, for chain wear) and the quick change carrier was in a Ducati Packing but it looks like it's the AFAM.

The Bike has about 3500 miles on it and the clutch fluid seems to work well in all gears, but I will look at that.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.

SOULRIDER said:

1st) I'd start with looking under the tank and seeing if there is a pinched fuel line.

2nd) Find a new dealer.

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Thanks Soulrider, I was thinking about the fuel lines but thought it could not be due to how hard it pulls when opened up. I'm all ears if you think of anything else. Thanks again brother.

I do find it very odd that your dealer did not have all current ECU updates / upmaps. Especially in California of all places too? For them to do the sprocket mods without the proper upmap is also puzzling. There has to be more than one dealership in Orange County!

Supernova1199 said:

Yes thanks for pointing that out, sorry about the type-O its a 15 tooth front (always a good idea to change both when your changing one, for chain wear) and the quick change carrier was in a Ducati Packing but it looks like it's the AFAM.

The Bike has about 3500 miles on it and the clutch fluid seems to work well in all gears, but I will look at that.
Thanks for any and all suggestions.

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yea the quick change sounds right being afam. all i was suggesting is that the ducati upgrade for "discounted price" does not have a quick change option. it is just like the stock sprocket except 2 more teeth

i have the afam 520 quick change fyi and did zvm chain its a great set up.

hope you find the solution if you do please post it just in case some of us run into the same problem.

Gunny Fitz said:

I do find it very odd that your dealer did not have all current ECU updates / upmaps. Especially in California of all places too? For them to do the sprocket mods without the proper upmap is also puzzling. There has to be more than one dealership in Orange County!

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Yes Gunny I feel the same way. I had asked him to look into the new ECU update because the first time they said it was only a week out. He said he called back to Ducati North America and they told him it was still 3 to 6 weeks out and they were still trying to work out bugs in it.

I need to read up on the form as to weather others have got the new ECU flash and the new 41T.

There is only one dealer I know of in Orange County but another is on the border of LA and OC I'm trying my best to stick with the dealer I bought the bike from they seem to be good guys that's why I'm not trying to name them and bust their balls also trying to get the wife to come pick me up over and over with a round trip of about 100 miles is a big pain. I'm giving them one last chance the bike qualifies for the Lemon Law in California but I almost have all the mods I want on it so it's hard to pull that trigger, If I do I'll move up to the RRRRRR

Thanks for your advise Gunny

That's a tough nut to crack.

I would start with: checking the TPS and the coil connection on both sides (front and rear cylinder coils)

Failing that, really sounds like you've had enough issues with that bike to start over with a new RRRRR.

DRSapp said:

That's a tough nut to crack.

I would start with: checking the TPS and the coil connection on both sides (front and rear cylinder coils)

Failing that, really sounds like you've had enough issues with that bike to start over with a new RRRRR.

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Thanks DRSapp I have the bike at the dealer now and the first thing they called me with was to say they can't test it tell I replace the back tire. lol

I'm sure I had a few hundred miles still on it lol so it cost me $300 bones just to test my bike, so they can fix it lmao.

Thanks for your help I'll keep you posted.

Just a update on my post, my bike has been in the shop with them working on the post above.
I will be picking it up tomorrow to see if it's fixed.

Dealer is telling me the reason my bike was running so bad is that my tire tread was low and they needed to install new tire and reset the ECU 02 censer hmmmm ??????

Any thoughts ?

Your ...... and they're idiots if thats the diagnosis.

hawaiiduc said:

Your ...... and they're idiots if thats the diagnosis.

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Harsh.....but true...

hawaiiduc said:

Your ...... and they're idiots if thats the diagnosis.

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Yes it's feeling that way

I can't wait to pick it up in the morning.

I will need to hear it from them with me asking questions it's hard over the phone.

As far as your dealership: Run like hell and do never look back!!! The tire story is just too much!

fireman1251 said:

As far as your dealership: Run like hell and do never look back!!! The tire story is just too much!

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Thanks my brother Firefighter , the hard part is that ,everything I have heard about this dealer is good and that they know what there doing so it has been keeping me from running.

I hope my talk with him tomorrow will go well or I'll start over with the lemon law.
But I love my supermodel I can't just toss her away can I ??? RRRRRRRR

I am really interested if that BS they told you will work. Please let us know.

Tire tread? Lmfao.
Hey you got a new tire out of it but I seriously doubt that issue would cause all the other things you mentioned. For the life of me I cannot understand why this dealer would not have access to all of the latest maps required for the 1199 series. They can be tge greatest guys in SoCal but it doesn't absolve them of proper tools to care for these issues.

If you want some deeper info contact Dave at Redline / Rexxer in Virginia to have it done right, and hopefully all under warranty. You asked for any ideas and he is who most dealers send their stuff to for proper tuning. Tell him I sent you.
Best wishes bro.