Ducati's built in BRAZIL? Really?

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FYI, read the highlighted text below"¦. how will we know if bikes built in Brazil are offered for sale in the US at some point?




Starting from October 2012, "Ducati do Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Motocicletas Ltda." will manage the distribution and service Ducati products all over the national territory. Ducati Motor Holding S.p.A has full control of the new company and has appointed Ricardo Susini as its Managing Director and Marco Truzzi as Service & After Sales Manager. The new structure is based in Sao Paulo and, after completing all necessary formalities, will operate through an efficient sales network covering the entire Brazilian territory.

Ducati Motor Holding S.p.A. also confirms its cooperation with DAFRA da Amazônia Indústria e Comércio de Motocicletas Ltda. for CKD assembly of Ducati motorcycles in Brazil. Local assembly in Brazil will allow the company to avoid stiff import taxes. Production at the Manaus plant will start within the next few weeks, with the first motorcycles delivered to a constantly growing and impressively evolving market. Ducati will carry out an increasingly important and strategic role in Brazil, confirming a positive growth trend world-wide, which has characterised this iconic manufacturer over the past few years.
 
This annoys me cuz ducati is cutting off from there roots. If this the case in future i rather buy a jap bike where i know there is quality and reliability. 3rd biggest means ..... Its just italian and japanese on the market.
 
jimmymendoza said:
At least we all got our Pani's before this happened.
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also means future ducati from brazil. your next part will be from brazil, and still overpriced .... from brazil. its like say would you mind i replace one of your bike parts with china aftermarket?
 
BlueBear said:
also means future ducati from brazil. your next part will be from brazil, and still overpriced .... from brazil. its like say would you mind i replace one of your bike parts with china aftermarket?
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Good point
 
Are you guys worries about Quality Control???;)
 
Everybody who wants to sell something in Brazil needs to produce there, as they have horrendous import taxes. We use 35% in our calculations.
VW started that decades ago, everybody else does it right now (interesting market), so why not?
I doubt any of these machines will be for export (emissions and safety)

Cheers
 
wait, this applies to the Brazil market only right, perhaps neighboring territories. my Ducati still comse from Bosnia, no?
 
Stw said:
Are you guys worries about Quality Control???;)
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worry it lost its value in meaning.
you cant say you own a italian bike anymore freely. mite even have to prove it sumtimes. ruins resale. ducati image etc, servicing. all in the name to make a extra buck...

i seen few big companies go this direction
1 gone broke from australia and the others are not goin so well

once you say sumthing proudly that you own sumthings we all know and trust.
you cant back and this is goin back for ducati.

like saying Snap On tools made in thailand
harley D made in canada
estwing made in mexico or brazil or china

brands we once knew isnt a brand
maybe ducati just want to be know as its just another motorcycle.
rather then "thats a DUCATI"
 
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adding another comment after reading some of the comments

hope its only for brazil
but why?
all of asia pays a tax of 300% market value (65kUS for a panigale S)
there is the biggest market of them all
everywhere is asia are on scooters and motorcycle
why not start a ducati there. or maybe im speaking to soon
 
I'm 100% certain this facility is intended to serve only the Brazilian market. The corporation I work for (at my day job) owns a facility in Brazil for the same reason....to circumvent Brazil's oppresive import tariffs. If a product is assembled in Brazil there is no import duty!

The bikes will be built in Italy, partially disassembled, then reassembled in Brazil. Done. I'll lay odds the facility will have fewer than 50 employees.

Same thing is done with vehicles in the US, for what it's worth. For instance, Ford builds the Transit van in Turkey. They add seats so it's a passenger van, 'cause the import tariffs on passenger vehicles is low, but the import tariff on cargo vehicles is high. The seats are removed and discarded in the States and the vehicle is turned into a cargo vehicle. It's cheaper to discard the seats than it is to pay the tariff!

Relax. Your next Ducati, should you chose to buy another, will be made in Italy unless you live in Brazil or in parts of the Asian market where they also have a manufacturing facility to serve that market. You actually spoke too late, Blue Bear...that facility already exists.
 
You guys are assuming things when saying the bikes built in Brazil wouldn't be the same as the ones in Europe in term of quality. Brazil is one of the most advanced countries in the world regarding mechanical engineering. Just do a research about the alcohol use as fuel for the last 40 years in Brazil. No other country has a program like that in that extent. All major manufacturers in Brazil (Ford, VW and Fiat) have been producing for almost a decade now cars with a flex engine, which used either alcohol or gas. I've seen very good quality things done in Brazil, especially the women :)
 
Just because they open a factory in Brazil doesn't mean all models will be manufactured there. There may be a limited number of models created and they may be specific to Brazil and Mexico
 
As someone else pointed out, this is for ASSEMBLY in the brazilian market, not for export, to get around import duties, triumphs doing the same thing with some of their bikes in the far east.

No biggie

That said, I wouldn't buy a brazilian ducati, I want an Italian built ducati with all the caveats and pitfalls that entails.
 
Touché. I will say I may have jumped the gun on my comments. I think people feel like, if they are paying for a Harley they expect it to be from USA and made in the USA or in this case a Ducati from Italy. Maybe I'm wrong. In any event i'm not putting Brazil down as a country and their sufficiency on creating or building a Ducati product.
 
jimmymendoza said:
I think people feel like, if they are paying for a Harley they expect it to be from USA and made in the USA......
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Oddly enough, my Harley Davidson was manufactured in Varese, Italy. :eek:

Go figure, huh?
 
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Ducati has assembly plants in Brazil and India now, and they told us at the dealer meeting the past two years that these plants are intended for the sole purpose of serving the local markets due to import restrictions/tariffs. All other markets are getting bikes assembled out of Bologna, and will continue to. Ducati knows the expectation of Ducatisti in the "mainstream" markets is that they are getting an Italian bike, and that will continue to be the case.
 

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