First trackday on the Pani

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Spokane, WA
With almost 2k miles on the Pani, it was finally time to bring her out to the track where she belongs! Coming from an 06 gixxer thou, which I have done hundreds of laps at my local track, most recently at a mid A group pace, I must say I came in from my first session just a tiny bit dejected. It literally felt almost like my first trackday all over again. My pace felt considerably slower, and just wasn't feeling at home on the bike.

First thing I noticed going into the first corner on the first lap of the first session is.. "Holy crap this seat is slippery!!" Now I see what the big deal is about with the racing seat on this bike. Never had a problem with the stock seat on the gixx. I seemed to get used to it a little more on the second session and thereafter, but it was still affecting my confidence and definitely not ideal... Racing seat ordered.

Next thing I noticed on the front straight was the insane amounts of torque and horsepower compared to my 11 year old suzuki! Shifting from 4th to 5th at redline caused a very slight wheelie and speed wobble! Doesn't help that I'm about 125 lbs fully geared up! This thing is insane. Braking is also world's apart from my old Suzuki. The brakes on the Pani are amazing, although on my last session I was braking for a hairpin when the bike didn't seem to be slowing much, so I started squeezing a little harder, bike still didn't seem to respond for a second, then all the sudden they grabbed like crazy. Then it kind of happened again in the next corner. Called it quits and went home after that, day was nearly done anyways, but not sure what that was about. Everything checked out fine visually in the pits. Maybe a pad upgrade is in order?

Quick shifter - Had few missed shifts throughout the day where I would up-shift and it would jump back down to the previous gear. Didn't help my confidence not knowing if it would jump a gear in the middle of a corner. Never did thankfully. Stock rearsets and quickshifter, but with reverse pattern. Other than that, having the autoblip downshifts is amazing!!

Suspension - My first session was in dynamic mode with all settings on default for race mode. The next session I put it into fixed mode with my suspension tuners settings optimized for me. Instantly I was feeling a little more comfortable on the bike, and the wheelie and speed wobble on the full throttle 4th to 5th shift was gone. Everything from mid-corner to straights, the bike just felt much more stable for me in fixed mode. Still thinking about going with a lighter rear spring, maybe fork springs too since I'm so light. The pre-load on forks and shock are all the way out, and it can still be pretty harsh on the road sometimes. On the track however it seemed pretty good, and tire wear was good too, so still not sure about changing springs just yet.

All in all I had fun, and both me and the bike came home in one piece which is all that matters. I'd say by the end of the day I was at a fast B group pace, so I've still got some learning to do which is part of the fun as well. I was trying to hold back a few percent anyways since wrecking my brand new $30k bike would be a very bad day. Not to mention everyone in the pits telling me I better not wreck it. No pressure there. We'll see how I feel with the racing seat on my next trackday. I honestly think that will make a pretty sizable difference.
 
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Congrats with your first track day. Look forward to experience the same fun once my second brake in period is completed (have 1300km done so far)
I have my fork spring replaced due to the fact that I am quite light - only 65kg so definitely I would recommend you this change. I have all the suspension setup optimized for my weight but still it can be pretty harsh on polish public road sometimes.
 
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Thanks guys, I have my first track day in a few weeks and I am *obsessed*. helpful commentary


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Great write up Ryfly.
The race seat definitely helps keep you in place. Being only 5'7" higher pegs made me feel more at home with the race seat extra height.

Your upshift issues, since you've flipped the shift lever for GP shift, make sure to position both the shift lever and the foot shift linkage to be at the same angle. You're looking for the shiftrod to be as close to 90 degrees to both shift levers as possible. This way you get full lever throw and no binding of the linkages.

At your weight you definitely need lighter springs. Big hint is that your preload is backed of all the way.
I'm 167 lbs and 195 geared up and the stock Ducati springs are normally in the
ballpark for me.

As for the brakes, it sounds like the pads overheated.

Have fun out there.
 
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Great that you enjoyed it. The race seat will help but you should definitely buy some stomp grip as well. It makes a huge difference. The skinny tank and high seat on the Pani don't support you in the way other bikes like the GSXR do so it takes a bit of getting used to how best to position yourself to deal with the heavy breaking forces.

The brakes boiling up is very likely due to not being comfortable on the bike yet. I only ever have problems with this on very fast tracks that I dont know. The other fix is just to use race pads but they take a bit of warmig up on the road which can be a bit dodgy.
 
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Great post looking forward to chiming in on my own next year. Just picked up a 1299 S and once I get through break in and confidence boost after 11 years off two wheels I'll be ready to compare notes!!!
 
The brakes should work instantly; yours are probably glazed from improper break-in. It will take some track seat time before you dance well with the bike (and setup/brakes sorted out). Then you'll be a track terror! My early days with the Pani were a little embarrassing as well. I crashed once. Embarrassment beats crashing any day! Take time to learn the track lines for you and your new bike at your own pace.
 
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Thanks guys. All good advice. Royal, I think you're right about the stomp grip. My GSXR did have that as well. I think that's why it was such a shock in the first corner with slippery seat and slippery tank. I found I was trying to support myself with my feet and hands instead of my leg, which was very awkward and uncomfortable. I'm just hesitant to put stomp grip on the tank of this beautiful machine!

Still unsure about the brake thing. I really don't feel like I was riding/braking hard enough to overheat them. On the ride home (yes I ride to and from every trackday) they were fine again, of course I wasn't going nearly as fast either. I'm just going to flush the fluid and see if that does anything for now. After less than 2k mostly easy miles, the front brake fluid is already turning darker, and rear brake fluid has been black since before 1k miles after looking through some old pics. After looking through some old threads, this seems to be normal. Crazy!

Twisted, thanks for the info about the shift lever. I'll have to check it out a little closer. I had the dealer install the reverse linkage and QS before I even took delivery of the bike.
 
Ryfly we'll have to meet up in Spokane one of these evenings. I stay there quite a bit during the week at times.
Wouldn't mind seeing how you have your bike set up in person.
 
Ryfly we'll have to meet up in Spokane one of these evenings. I stay there quite a bit during the week at times.
Wouldn't mind seeing how you have your bike set up in person.

Absolutely, hit me up next time you're in town.