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Love the way your bike looks but you know that ugly plastic you took off its there to force air across the motor and keep the bike cool. I had a honda motor (not on a bike) when I ran it without the covers it would over heat and shut down. Keep an eye on your temps.

No. the plastic covers were added by ducati in a recall (edit: optional free of cost upgrade) because of customer complaints about heat.

almost all 2012 models were delivered without covers.
 
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I use the T-Rex sliders.

Dropped the bike on it's left side 2 weeks ago due to parking on a steep decline like an idiot.

Short of a broken mirror and a gouged slider, no damage to the fairings at all.
 
I use the T-Rex sliders.

Dropped the bike on it's left side 2 weeks ago due to parking on a steep decline like an idiot.

Short of a broken mirror and a gouged slider, no damage to the fairings at all.

T-Rex all the way! Excellent coverage and much cheaper. There are a number of threads on this site about these. Everything else is over-priced. Also, while the GB-Racing and R&G covers provide fabulous protection for the engine covers, they do not mitigate the damage to the rest of the motorcycle in the event of a low-side. I can see using the GB-Racing and R&G covers together with a "frame slider" solution - which, while expensive would be the best coverage you can bolt on. If you do decide to go this route, note that the T-Rex solution may not allow you to do this because of how they mount to the engine case on the right side of the bike; you probably would have to go with Sato or another product.
 
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R&G said they engineered their kit with the bracketry the way it is to minimize potential damage to the engine cases in a hard hit, which also makes it more complicated to install. They actually went through 2 revisions of the design to get the load spread out as widely as possible based upon racing crash data from their sponsored British riders. On the crash I saw last weekend, the R&G bracket bent to take the impact as designed, which should mean a lower chance of breaking the engine case.
 
I installed GSG
http://www.gsg-mototechnik.de/00ducati/ducati-pangiale-1199/ducati-pangiale-1199.htm

Pretty expensive, but top quality, even replacement screws are properly calculated for strength. No modification of bike required, and fairing can be taken off without removing the sliders.

They are successfully making crash protections since two decades.

Er, I have a bit of a language barrier problem here! Looked at the site but there's not an english version. I've found my way around it, but no 'buy' button.

Anywhere else that sells these, like ebay, or just a run down of prices etc. for a full set would help.

Thanks,
Luke
 
One thing is taking the load and absorb as much energy as possible without transfering it to the engine. The other thing is that it should allow the bike to slide on the ground as long and as stable as possible. Luckily most manufactures use Delrin nowadays. But to avoid hooking the slider into obstacles on the ground, it should have a slope or radius as big as possible. That's what I like about the GSG. No other one has that.
 
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Made pics after anodization (VAST is obliged to comment my bad taste now :) ).
Parts are massive...

(I am not affiliated with GSG!)
 

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Interesting to see the workaround they used for clutch cover on the 899... a clamp around the cover. Not acceptable. Such a shame on such a great looking slider. Another reason to swap that cover for the 1199 unit.

A few photos:

899

GSG-Sliders-Ducati-Panigale-899-b.jpg


1199

ducati-panigale-1199-4608.jpg


What about the comments of its location? As I was researching this, I came across a few threads saying that the ones that attach on the bottom being more effective than those on the top since the lower part of the cover is what would hit first??

Or would these (on a 1199) work with the Ducati lower CF cover?
 
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I've crashed several Japanese bikes hard on the track and all of them had Sato frame sliders. On a bike where the sliders are supported with a thick bolt through the frame, they work great in a lowside...as long as your fixed rearsets don't dig into the dirt and endo the bike like 20x - I've had that happen too.

No offense to anyone, but I see all the "frame" sliders in this thread snapping off like twigs in a lowside at any speed. Case covers are a different story, but it doesn't change the likelihood of this being a one-crash bike. It'll just (maybe) keep you from dumping oil all over the place.
 
I've crashed several Japanese bikes hard on the track and all of them had Sato frame sliders. On a bike where the sliders are supported with a thick bolt through the frame, they work great in a lowside...as long as your fixed rearsets don't dig into the dirt and endo the bike like 20x - I've had that happen too.

No offense to anyone, but I see all the "frame" sliders in this thread snapping off like twigs in a lowside at any speed. Case covers are a different story, but it doesn't change the likelihood of this being a one-crash bike. It'll just (maybe) keep you from dumping oil all over the place.

One crash bike! O .... I hope not......
 
Frame sliders are always a bit of a gamble in my opinion. I've been racing for about 12 years now, and crashed so many times that I've lost count really... Got to be somewhere between 20-30 times now...

I've crashed numerous bikes both with frame sliders, and without frame sliders. And in some crashes, the frame sliders have helped a bit with damage control, and in other crashes they have even made it worse. Sometimes they get torn off/out, damaging engine mounts and mounting points. Sometimes they have been bent/flipped around, causing more damage in the area around the slider. If the bike starts tumbling, they are no good either. And in most of the crashes that the sliders have actually helped a bit with damage control, we've had to replace/repair/repaint the fairings anyway, but maybe with a bit less work.

Anyway, I think it's a bit of a gamble. Sometimes they help, sometimes they make it worse, and in most crashes they don't make any difference at all. I'd put my money on a good protection for the engine casing instead. We are using R&G at the moment, and are pleased with them, but there are a lot of different brands and solutions out there that work really well. They are actually mandatory in our regulations now, since last year I believe...
 
Macke does a great job of pointing out the limitations and drawbacks of engine sliders.

Just a few notes based on my much more limited experience (3 lowsides--all on the right--on my R--in the course of about 2500 track miles.)

I've found that the Sato engine sliders combined with fork sliders and good clutch cover protection are very effective in right side lowsides. The most important part of this is the Woodcraft clutch cover--but both the fork and engine sliders have saved me a lot of money and may have prevented damage that might have totaled my bike.

Having said that I know, as Macke points out, that once your bike flips or suffers a more serous crash than a simple, contained low side most protection on the bike, except maybe that for engine cases and sacrificial track skins, becomes irrelevant.

Steve
 

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