Getting a new to me 2020 V4s
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20k+. I hope somebody did the 15,000 desmo service already and left records. Otherwise, winter project. Try to hang on to your license. The topend on these is pretty seductive. There's a thread from maybe last year that goes thru the chassis differences. A 20 still has the original geometry? When they made the chassis change they raised the swingarm pivot, shortened the dogbones (raises the rear) and dropped the forks. So they raised the CG and increased ant-squat. Then they softened the rear spring and added preload to compensate. Andy, I think, is the one whose messed with the geometry the most.
Thank you, sir. The one I’m looking at has 4100 miles but I put 30k miles + or try too on all of mine…
I was hoping to find some people with 20 to 40,000 miles that are still pulling strong and they do three to five track days a year like me…
I’m curious about any internal engine changes from 2018 to 2020
I’m curious if I should keep looking and find a 22+ if its changes were significant.
I’m wondering if I can change my gearing easily on the 2020 without dealing with a lot of headaches and relearn procedures and fault codes.
My 1199 blew up at 30 K and my 1299 blew up at coda this weekend at 28K miles
11 was piston eating itself
12 is con rod baring
Jag
I was hoping to find some people with 20 to 40,000 miles that are still pulling strong and they do three to five track days a year like me…
I’m curious about any internal engine changes from 2018 to 2020
I’m curious if I should keep looking and find a 22+ if its changes were significant.
I’m wondering if I can change my gearing easily on the 2020 without dealing with a lot of headaches and relearn procedures and fault codes.
My 1199 blew up at 30 K and my 1299 blew up at coda this weekend at 28K miles
11 was piston eating itself
12 is con rod baring
Jag
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Sounds like you need a Honda not a Ducati if you want engine longevity. I’m not sure there’s anyone on here with a V4 that has more than 20k mi on the clock and on the same motor. And I’d bet you’ll run into the same engine problems as your 99’s at around the same mileage.
Test rode at 21 and 22 and the 22 felt better to ride. More refined. My 22 will probably be up for sale soon
Thanks for the reply. Wasn’t looking to buy yours just wanted your take and input.
These motors (1103's) should readily survive 30-40K (I do wonder about the valve guide life) if they were assembled correctly from the factory. And there's the rub, you never know. Ducati still has all the quality issues they've always had. From a design standpoint should be OK, nickasil and plain bearings. And they changed the cam/rocker metallurgies which is a good thing. I think going to the later version with the SA pivot change is a good idea if the price is about the same. Only motor changes I've found is the revision changes of the oil and water pumps. I have testraretta twins with over 50K and they still use no oil (none) between oil changes (every 4-5K miles). And my 1103 uses no oil but it's only at 12K. If the seller will let you pull the air filter, pull it and see if there's excess oil in the airbox. I have an 1103 apart that spun a rod bearing at 14K and I'm beginning to measure for the postmortem.
@baggerman thank you for the reply, sir. This is a for sale on consignment at a Ducati dealership and I can also get a three-year Ducati warranty for a couple grand which I think is a no-brainer.
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Get the 22
Tell me more partner. And the 22 is 13k more…
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13k is a lot but the 22 irons out all the earlier models rough edges, read the reviews because they all agree is a definite step up. That said an earlier model would be fine and a definite upgrade from the twin, I'd also get the S because the electronic suspension is "magic carpet" on the road and for the wheels. For mostly track, a base with upgrades is better arguably.
Also despite contrary opinions these engines are bulletproof in "normal" use.
Also despite contrary opinions these engines are bulletproof in "normal" use.
I would offer 28. Assume V1
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I'm curious about this. Is this a well known and broadly accepted thing about Ducati nowadays? I know the stereotypes but what quality issues specifically?
A few days ago I was having some shower thoughts and decided I'd be buried with my V4R, or at least pass it down to the kid. So I was thinking of building an inventory of spare parts. I guess I need to know which parts specifically now...
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With the mileage you're putting on I'd consider getting the lowest mileage & lowest cost bike you could. Coming from a xx99 bike, the V4 is going to be a noticeable change. I don't know if going for a specific model year over another should be the priority as long as your on one of the wide body versions, 2020+.
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Wide body fairings for sure, but since youre pretty practical and like to improve your bikes just get the best value lowest mileage one you can find because TBH they are all good! . Dont worry about gearing or at least I haven't, the 1299 needed to go from 39 to 41 but the fueling and power delivery on the 4 means you can leave it stock. Rick was running 45 on the rear or something outrageous but it was strictly track only and did not use 1st. The difference between the 99 and the 4 is that these keep revving long after the twin has hit redline.
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