going to attempt a no-heat-shield approach...

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Creating a heat shield is fine....but do not try to keep the heat in the pipes.....it needs to be dispersed elsewhere
 
Settle pettle. Just having some fun with the never ending heat complaints. Its well known and people have tried all sorts of things with not much real effect. This design has been out now since early 2012 so anyone buying a 1199 or 1299 has got to be prepared to put up with some heat there. Its a fact of life. Either put up with it and enjoy the 99% of what is positive about the bike or ....

I have been reading about this issue for over 3 years now and I do not think too many have found any real remedy that makes a considerable difference. Good luck with your attempts at a solutiion and sorry if I offended you.

BTW I have the Akra carbon heat shield and found no difference in heat between that and OEM. IMHO airflow is the only thing that washes away the heat. Go over 100 kph and the heat reduces.

no offense ever taken, no worries :)

y'all might find this amusing:

I have actually found a WORKING solution. Mind you, I live in the South where redneck engineering reigns supreme.

My standard riding pants are BMW City denims. After I gear up, I lie on my stomach. My wife takes cold water and soaks my butt area and down the backs of my thighs. I then ride :) Rewetting every 30-60min is required.

Also required is some thick skin, as people stare at you splashing water onto your butt, as well as appearing to the casual observer that you have just had the world's most explosive diarrhea into your pants....

Anyways, my hope is to redistribute the heat lower down into the system, where it'll be less bothersome. But really, I'm just trying to entertain myself by trying to invent a better mousetrap...or reinvent the wheel, or just simply to say that I tried using NASA technology and it's still hot :p

The bike otherwise is brilliant! 95 degrees today and I couldn't stay off it all day, and now with the sun setting I think it needs yet another workout :)
 
I am sorry but I think you are wasting your time.

Ride for 30 minutes straight then get caught in traffic on a 90 degree day. Then assess if you can endure worse.

I just rode today with stop and go traffic. Its 90 degrees outside and it is crazy hot. The best way to "insulate" the heat is having a metal piece then carbon piece to shield you from the pipes (a la Termi V2 shield). It's hot with Akro or stock shields and I can only imagine how it would be without a shield at all. You need something to keep the radiated heat from the bike and especially yourself.
 
Riding this bike since 2012 the things i did to keep cool
1. butt heat- thermotech tape under the seat
2. Right thigh burn - put shift-tech CF subframe covers lined with thermotech tape. I used to ride with a square pot holder in my right thigh before these subframe covers came out.
3. Ceramic coat the whole exhaust system inside and out.
4. Motul MoCool
5. Second gen heat shield for full termi's

When i first rode my 1299S i forgot how hot the Panigale gets so i did the same thing to it except the ceramic coat and 2nd gen heat sheild and all is good now a little toastier than my 1199 due to the second gen heat sheild. I notice at the dealer the carbon on heat shield on the R for the Akrapovic is different than the one i got from Ducati it looks like the R has the inner metal sheild. Can anyone confirm this?
 
My main question is how hot is too hot? I can physically deal with the heat, the 1098 was horrible as well, but at what point does it become a problem for the engine? I get really nervous in town when the gage hits 220. I have never trusted Ducati fans, they just don't work for crap. As stated earlier, the only thing that works is airflow.

I just don't want to destroy my engine riding in town and it feels like I am.
 
no offense ever taken, no worries :)

y'all might find this amusing:

I have actually found a WORKING solution. Mind you, I live in the South where redneck engineering reigns supreme.

My standard riding pants are BMW City denims. After I gear up, I lie on my stomach. My wife takes cold water and soaks my butt area and down the backs of my thighs. I then ride :) Rewetting every 30-60min is required.

Also required is some thick skin, as people stare at you splashing water onto your butt, as well as appearing to the casual observer that you have just had the world's most explosive diarrhea into your pants....

Anyways, my hope is to redistribute the heat lower down into the system, where it'll be less bothersome. But really, I'm just trying to entertain myself by trying to invent a better mousetrap...or reinvent the wheel, or just simply to say that I tried using NASA technology and it's still hot :p

The bike otherwise is brilliant! 95 degrees today and I couldn't stay off it all day, and now with the sun setting I think it needs yet another workout :)

Merica'
 

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